I just looked at an L4150, that the owner says is about a 1987 or 1988 model. The tractor has 1920 hours, (I assume it still works, and based on overall condition I think it is correct) but is quite faded and somewhat rough. It has set outside it's entire life, and his employees don't appear to have spent much time greasing it, as there is little grease residue on any zerks, etc.
Needless to say, there is some wear in the two main backhoe pivot pins, though they are still very usable. The tires are all about shot, and the rear ones are installed backwards for some reason. The FEL cutting edge is getting close to the needing replacement and the front of the bucket is bent down a little as he has it setup to use forks with it, but otherwise looks pretty good. One relatively minor issue is that the FEL brace bolts (the piece of metal with about 4 bolts at each end on both sides of tractor) have been a little loose for a long time, so the these holes appear to be elongated as the loader frame at the main arm pivot points shifts back and forth about a 1/2" as downward pressure is applied or the loader is lifted. I suspect that these holes are worn open and should probably be redrilled to a larger size and larger bolts installed. But even at idle it had plenty of hydraulic capacity to lift the front of the tractor off the ground.
The tractor started quite easily, even at 45 degrees, but smoked somewhat for a few minutes, but then cleared up. But it seemed to idle at a fairly high speed of about 1200 rpms after it warmed up a little even though the throttle was fully forward.
The backhoe has two buckets, and the larger 24" bucket was used a lot as the teeth are quite worn, but the smaller 12" bucket hasn't been used much. It would appear that the backhoe (which is a Kubota frame mounted unit) may also have a few loose bolts somewhere, as it shifted up and down a little on the back of the tractor as downward pressure was applied on the hoe arm, and then lifted again.
I forgot to get the model number of either the backhoe or the loader, but both are Kubota, and the 3-point arms have never been used (and are probably lost). The tractor does have the hydralic shuttle shift, which I understand is the preferred shuttle.
The backhoe has a large oil reservoir underneath the tractor, between the frame rails of the hoe. I don't think it has the auxilary oil pump though, as nothing is connected to the front of the engine crank. I assume the entire hydraulic system must run off of the tractor hydraulics?
It doesn't appear to have any signifcant oil leaks anywhere. One hoe swing cylinder should be rebuilt as it leaks a little at the seal, and appears to missing the dirt cover or something as the seal is recessed about 2" back from the outside edge of the cylinder.
The tractor is in Indiana, and the owner lives in FL, as he just retired after using it to build a nice subdivision. He had it listed along with a bunch of things I don't want, such as a bunch of sea walls, Lincoln welder/generator and a sea wall driver. The driver fits on the hoe after the bucket is removed, and the machine has extra hydralic connection hookups at the back that ran the driver.
Considering the overall condition I was thinking of offering him something like $6k-$7k for the unit. I doubt he will take that, but I guess you never know until you ask. Is it worth this much, or is it worth a lot more than this? Any thoughts on other things I should look for and what a starting offer should be would be appreciated.
I am just looking for something to use around my property, and won't use it that hard or that often. It could use quite a bit of work to get it up to snuff again, (fixing loose items, greasing things, etc) and a new paint job would make it look much better. I will need to check it over much more thourghly than I did with a quick cursory 5 minute examination if it sounds like he is willing to sell it in my price range.
Sorry for the long post.
Needless to say, there is some wear in the two main backhoe pivot pins, though they are still very usable. The tires are all about shot, and the rear ones are installed backwards for some reason. The FEL cutting edge is getting close to the needing replacement and the front of the bucket is bent down a little as he has it setup to use forks with it, but otherwise looks pretty good. One relatively minor issue is that the FEL brace bolts (the piece of metal with about 4 bolts at each end on both sides of tractor) have been a little loose for a long time, so the these holes appear to be elongated as the loader frame at the main arm pivot points shifts back and forth about a 1/2" as downward pressure is applied or the loader is lifted. I suspect that these holes are worn open and should probably be redrilled to a larger size and larger bolts installed. But even at idle it had plenty of hydraulic capacity to lift the front of the tractor off the ground.
The tractor started quite easily, even at 45 degrees, but smoked somewhat for a few minutes, but then cleared up. But it seemed to idle at a fairly high speed of about 1200 rpms after it warmed up a little even though the throttle was fully forward.
The backhoe has two buckets, and the larger 24" bucket was used a lot as the teeth are quite worn, but the smaller 12" bucket hasn't been used much. It would appear that the backhoe (which is a Kubota frame mounted unit) may also have a few loose bolts somewhere, as it shifted up and down a little on the back of the tractor as downward pressure was applied on the hoe arm, and then lifted again.
I forgot to get the model number of either the backhoe or the loader, but both are Kubota, and the 3-point arms have never been used (and are probably lost). The tractor does have the hydralic shuttle shift, which I understand is the preferred shuttle.
The backhoe has a large oil reservoir underneath the tractor, between the frame rails of the hoe. I don't think it has the auxilary oil pump though, as nothing is connected to the front of the engine crank. I assume the entire hydraulic system must run off of the tractor hydraulics?
It doesn't appear to have any signifcant oil leaks anywhere. One hoe swing cylinder should be rebuilt as it leaks a little at the seal, and appears to missing the dirt cover or something as the seal is recessed about 2" back from the outside edge of the cylinder.
The tractor is in Indiana, and the owner lives in FL, as he just retired after using it to build a nice subdivision. He had it listed along with a bunch of things I don't want, such as a bunch of sea walls, Lincoln welder/generator and a sea wall driver. The driver fits on the hoe after the bucket is removed, and the machine has extra hydralic connection hookups at the back that ran the driver.
Considering the overall condition I was thinking of offering him something like $6k-$7k for the unit. I doubt he will take that, but I guess you never know until you ask. Is it worth this much, or is it worth a lot more than this? Any thoughts on other things I should look for and what a starting offer should be would be appreciated.
I am just looking for something to use around my property, and won't use it that hard or that often. It could use quite a bit of work to get it up to snuff again, (fixing loose items, greasing things, etc) and a new paint job would make it look much better. I will need to check it over much more thourghly than I did with a quick cursory 5 minute examination if it sounds like he is willing to sell it in my price range.
Sorry for the long post.
