Question on tipping tractor over

[Walkin Horse]

In the last 7 years smart phones have become available. On my iPhone if it's held rite there is a horizontal level that reads degrees. Sometimes I will use it to check my angle at certain places on my farm. 12 or 13 degrees feels iffy on a sideways roll. The tractor stays stable it just feels iffy.

 

[Hermio]

Wasn't on this forum 7 years ago.

 

[Fawken]

Old thread, but here's my two confessions: Rolled (not tipped) mine when it was about 4 years old, 1987 ? maybe. It didn't have a loader then, but the tires were not filled either and I was on the side of a pond dam. Second time nearly tipped it but didn't was when lifting that 55 gallon barrel of chemicals in my avatar. My front left tire was low and didn't realize it till I came out of the trailer with that pallet. When I lowered the box blade the right rear wheel came off the ground. Scared me half to death. Raised the box blade, aired the tire, then took that picture as a reminder to self to check the front tires before doing heavy lifting.

 

[McREBEL]

You missed the point obviously. Seven years later he doesn't need to be corrected, especially when everyone on this forum knew exactly what he meant then and now. There are a number of grammatical errors in that post and grammatical errors all over this forum for that matter. Feel free to clean it all up. You'll make a lot of friends.

 

[SPYDERLK]

You missed the point obviously. Seven years later he doesn't need to be corrected, especially when everyone on this forum knew exactly what he meant then and now. There are a number of grammatical errors in that post and grammatical errors all over this forum for that matter. Feel free to clean it all up. You'll make a lot of friends.

I guess you hate it when somebody alerts you your fly is open.

 

[McREBEL]

I guess you hate it when somebody alerts you your fly is open.

It wasn't my fly. Maybe you and hermio can team up to check everyone's fly. :shocked:

 

[Hermio]

It is a common error that I am seeing with greater and greater frequency. Bad grammar spreads as a virus. My "doctor's prescription" was directed at current readers who may have fallen into this habit. Don't get me started on the rampant misuse of "like"!

 

[murphy1244]

Must be the same error like when people post on an old thread with nonsense.

 

[Hermio]

Old thread, but here's my two confessions: Rolled (not tipped) mine when it was about 4 years old, 1987 ? maybe. It didn't have a loader then, but the tires were not filled either and I was on the side of a pond dam. Second time nearly tipped it but didn't was when lifting that 55 gallon barrel of chemicals in my avatar. My front left tire was low and didn't realize it till I came out of the trailer with that pallet. When I lowered the box blade the right rear wheel came off the ground. Scared me half to death. Raised the box blade, aired the tire, then took that picture as a reminder to self to check the front tires before doing heavy lifting.

Yikes! I have had only one close call, but that makes me pretty paranoid about it. It was when I had a heavy load in my loader, traversing a fairly steep hill. I kept the loader pretty low, but the tractor tipped a bit, with one of the rear wheels coming off the ground. It stopped when the front axle ran out of pivot. I lowered the bucket to the ground and reduced the weight in it, and drove out leaning uphill with my body. This was on my little Kubota B7100 HST, which weighed about 2000# with me on it, so my body weight made a difference. On my Mahindra 5035, at 10,000 lb with FEL and an 8' brush cutter, my body weight won't matter very much.

 

[Hermio]

Must be the same error like when people post on an old thread with nonsense.

I wouldn't know. I never post nonsense.

 

[Fawken]

My tractor is small and weighs about 2k lbs with the loader as well. When the back tires are low it's easy to see, but the front tires don't depress that much until there is a load in the bucket. The scary part was that I had to back down ramps to bring that pallet out of a box trailer. Thinking back the angle of the ramps must have been such that less weight was applied to the front wheels until I hit level ground. Now, as I said, I'm **** about checking those front tires.

 

[SPYDERLK]

You missed the point obviously. Seven years later he doesn't need to be corrected, especially when everyone on this forum knew exactly what he meant then and now. There are a number of grammatical errors in that post and grammatical errors all over this forum for that matter. Feel free to clean it all up. You'll make a lot of friends.

I guess you hate it when somebody alerts you your fly is open.

It wasn't my fly. Maybe you and hermio can team up to check everyone's fly. :shocked:

Do you have a coherent point, as opposed to your reply?

 

[My Hoe]

Just make sure you don't drop it so fast that you float it.

I'm not familiar with the "float" function, and that's probably due in large part to my not yet having my tractor, or reading the FEL manual from Kubota yet.

But could you explain a bit about "float," in the context of the OP's "tractor tipping" question (i.e., so I'm not "hijacking")?

Because I, too, thought all that would be required would be to drop the FEL down, to prevent the potential unpleasantness.

Thanks much.

My Hoe

 

[4570Man]

If you push the loader stick down it goes down with hydraulic down force and can't be lifted back up. If you push the loader stick down hard enough it goes into "float". Float is the equivalent of putting your loader into neutral. It can be lifted up or down more. You will feel the stick move into float.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Its an old thread. RayCo has no recent activity on the forum.
... To your question - float is the far forward position of the joystick. It allows the bucket to fall under its own weight and "rest" on the ground. There is typically a detent there. If you tried to drop the bucket quickly you may inadvertently go past the Down position into the Float. In either, the overhung bucket weight goes to ground and rears become better planted. Down however is under hydraulic control. You have choice to push on the ground or hover. The bucket digging in is something you probably dont want. The bucket lifting the front and allowing it to slip sideways is not good either.

Hopefully you can manage a stop as the bucket comes to ground contact. Then feel your way out of it.
larry

 

[My Hoe]

If you push the loader stick down it goes down with hydraulic down force and can't be lifted back up. If you push the loader stick down hard enough it goes into "float". Float is the equivalent of putting your loader into neutral. It can be lifted up or down more. You will feel the stick move into float.

Its an old thread. RayCo has no recent activity on the forum.
... To your question - float is the far forward position of the joystick. It allows the bucket to fall under its own weight and "rest" on the ground. There is typically a detent there. If you tried to drop the bucket quickly you may inadvertently go past the Down position into the Float. In either, the overhung bucket weight goes to ground and rears become better planted. Down however is under hydraulic control. You have choice to push on the ground or hover. The bucket digging in is something you probably dont want. The bucket lifting the front and allowing it to slip sideways is not good either.

Hopefully you can manage a stop as the bucket comes to ground contact. Then feel your way out of it.
larry

SPYDERLK and 4570man,

Thank you both, very much, for this information!

I could easily see how, in a panic situation (especially when "bounding/bouncing" downhill), one could push the joystick too far, and get into this "float mode," and wonder WTH happened to the FEL's downforce. Jeez!

You've both just convinced me to study ALL my manuals, as well as read the TLB instruction handbook that S.W.M.B.O. (She Who Must Be Obeyed) got me, as a gift, some time back.

And it just proves, yet again, the wisdom of my maternal Grandfather, a mechanical drawing instructor, who used to say, frequently:
"FIRST--READ the INSTRUCTIONS."

May he Rest in Peace.

Thanks again, both of you, for the short answer, and the motivation to "crack the books!" (I guess I'm a bit jaded, having grown up in my father's heavy construction business, running cranes/977 loaders/dozers and backhoes, around on a FLAT shop yard. Obviously, there's a big difference between HEAVY commercial equipment, on hard-packed, flat gravel, and a light CUT, on uneven, often slippery terrain).

Again, much appreciated.

My Hoe

 

[Hermio]

Indeed, float position my stop a forward tilt, but lowering it under hydraulic pressure is more positive. If it continues to tip while going forward with the bucket down under hydraulic pressure, you are probably falling off a cliff.