jwk
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Can someone tell me if the 9x3 transmission on the TC30 has synchros? Or is it the basic "crash" gear transmission?
Question on TC30 9x3 transmission
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ptfarmermd
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The TC30 transmission is a standard 9x3 gear transmission. I believe the first tractor in the Boomer line with a synchro transmission as an option is the TC35, which is what I bought.
Hydro is always an option for all of them, except the TC48 and TC55. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Hydro is always an option for all of them, except the TC48 and TC55. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
EquipmentJunkie
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I have a 1520 Ford which is essentially the same basic tractor as the TC30. The 1520 also has the 9x3 transmission. It is not a synchro transmission to my knowledge.
One word of advice: Put the tethered plastic block between the clutch linkage and the underside of the opertator's platform when it is parked. This is to keep the clutch from adhering to the flywheel.
We used to do this after using the tractor in the first few years that we had it, but the block fell off the tether and was lost. So this practice wasn't followed. Needless to say, the clutch adhered to the flywheel and now the transmission is difficult to shift into gear from a dead stop. Now, when shifting into gear at a dead stop you can feel the tractor lurch ever so slightly. Frustrating.
One word of advice: Put the tethered plastic block between the clutch linkage and the underside of the opertator's platform when it is parked. This is to keep the clutch from adhering to the flywheel.
We used to do this after using the tractor in the first few years that we had it, but the block fell off the tether and was lost. So this practice wasn't followed. Needless to say, the clutch adhered to the flywheel and now the transmission is difficult to shift into gear from a dead stop. Now, when shifting into gear at a dead stop you can feel the tractor lurch ever so slightly. Frustrating.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( One word of advice: Put the tethered plastic block between the clutch linkage and the underside of the opertator's platform when it is parked. This is to keep the clutch from adhering to the flywheel. )</font>
EquipmentJunkie, you lost me. What tethered plastic block? Doing this would pull the clutch disc away from the flywheel to prevent sticking? If it was stuck, wouldn't just pushing in the clutch break it free?
EquipmentJunkie, you lost me. What tethered plastic block? Doing this would pull the clutch disc away from the flywheel to prevent sticking? If it was stuck, wouldn't just pushing in the clutch break it free?
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"EquipmentJunkie, you lost me. What tethered plastic block? Doing this would pull the clutch disk away from the flywheel to prevent sticking? If it was stuck, wouldn't just pushing in the clutch break it free? "
If a clutch is rust frozen, sometimes it can be broken loose by popping the clutch...but sometimes the transmission has to be pulled and the clutch replaced.
If the tractor is going to set idle for an extended time (during the winter, for example), it's best to block the clutch pedal in the depressed position.
on my 790, there is a tab of metal (a stop, I think) welded to the floor board. I use a clamp or vice grip plier to hold the clutch pedal down.
If a clutch is rust frozen, sometimes it can be broken loose by popping the clutch...but sometimes the transmission has to be pulled and the clutch replaced.
If the tractor is going to set idle for an extended time (during the winter, for example), it's best to block the clutch pedal in the depressed position.
on my 790, there is a tab of metal (a stop, I think) welded to the floor board. I use a clamp or vice grip plier to hold the clutch pedal down.
PineRidge
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Do you guys use this same procedure on cars with manual transmissions as well? I have never heard any car manufacturers recommending this practice or is it just associated with manual transmissions on tractors?
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If a vehicle is in storage for any length of time, it does pay to block the clutch.
I did it on an older Porsche 911 I'd owned. I normally stored it for the winter.
I did it on an older Porsche 911 I'd owned. I normally stored it for the winter.
PineRidge
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Oh gosh I get it now, I'll bet this is one of those unwritten mechanical laws that all men should instinctively know even without asking or needing to read it in any operators manual right? Sorry guys this one is my mistake. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Makes me feel good about having automatic transmissions in my cars and a hydro in my New Holland. I'll save myself the need to keep any long sticks or vise grips to hold the clutch pedal depressed. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Makes me feel good about having automatic transmissions in my cars and a hydro in my New Holland. I'll save myself the need to keep any long sticks or vise grips to hold the clutch pedal depressed. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Kubotas with HST have a clutch pedal. Mine also came with a clutch block to use when storing the tractor for an extended period of time. The owners manual states "keep the clutch disengaged. If the clutch is left engaged for a long peroid of time, the clutch plate may rust, making clutch disengagement impossible at the next operation". The clutch block is used for that purpose.
I have never heard of doing this for a manual transmission in a car that is being put into storage for extended periods. In fact I store my SAAB with a 5-speed during the winter and the clutch is always engaged. It does not seem to have problems.
I have never heard of doing this for a manual transmission in a car that is being put into storage for extended periods. In fact I store my SAAB with a 5-speed during the winter and the clutch is always engaged. It does not seem to have problems.
EquipmentJunkie
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Sorry about losing you. I suspected that I would not explain the situation well. Yes, there was a block that was included with the 1520. You needed to wedge the block between the pedal linkage and the floorboard above it. This block prevented the clutch from sticking to the flywheel during longer periods of inactivity (winter months).
I remember seeing a little latch on back side of the pedal on Kubotas or Massey Fergusons which would lock out the clutch, as well. This system looks to be easier to use rather than crawling under your tractor and trying to work the pedal with your hands from underneath while placing the block between the linkage and the floorboard.
I am guessing what happened on my tractor is that pieces of the clutch adhered to the flywheel when the clutch was pushed in after a period of inactivity. Now, when the tractor is used, the pieces of clutch on the flywheel come in contact with the main clutch disc and keep the shafts spinning in the transmission ever so slightly...just enough to make it difficult to shift.
Yes, the tractor should be split and the problem corrected. But, for the minor inconvenience, I'm not going to that level of expense.
I remember seeing a little latch on back side of the pedal on Kubotas or Massey Fergusons which would lock out the clutch, as well. This system looks to be easier to use rather than crawling under your tractor and trying to work the pedal with your hands from underneath while placing the block between the linkage and the floorboard.
I am guessing what happened on my tractor is that pieces of the clutch adhered to the flywheel when the clutch was pushed in after a period of inactivity. Now, when the tractor is used, the pieces of clutch on the flywheel come in contact with the main clutch disc and keep the shafts spinning in the transmission ever so slightly...just enough to make it difficult to shift.
Yes, the tractor should be split and the problem corrected. But, for the minor inconvenience, I'm not going to that level of expense.
