I am pretty sure that I am going to go with the ATI grapple hook for my Kubota 5040. I am now trying to figure out what my options are to control it. What is everyone using for theirs? I was thinking about trying to use my rear remotes for a while and then add some remotes on the front later on. If I end up adding remotes what is the most logical way to set it up so that operating it is the most logical way. In other words I've seen some buttons on the loader handle that are for sale and other setups. I was wondering what everyone would recommend? Also is there any downside to me using my rear remotes for a while? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
I am pretty sure that I am going to go with the ATI grapple hook for my Kubota 5040. I am now trying to figure out what my options are to control it. What is everyone using for theirs? I was thinking about trying to use my rear remotes for a while and then add some remotes on the front later on. If I end up adding remotes what is the most logical way to set it up so that operating it is the most logical way. In other words I've seen some buttons on the loader handle that are for sale and other setups. I was wondering what everyone would recommend? Also is there any downside to me using my rear remotes for a while? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
I am using the remotes for my grapple and tree shear. The remote I use for the grapple does not have any QD's on the rear, it is plumbed forward. The second remote is teed with rear QD's and also forward QD's at the loader mount and front cross bar. Likewise for the third remote. Since I am not using my tractor to make money the small extra time to drop my hand and operate the grapple is no matter. Plus it is all neater.
Vernon
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
I am using the remotes for my grapple and tree shear. The remote I use for the grapple does not have any QD's on the rear, it is plumbed forward. The second remote is teed with rear QD's and also forward QD's at the loader mount and front cross bar. Likewise for the third remote. Since I am not using my tractor to make money the small extra time to drop my hand and operate the grapple is no matter. Plus it is all neater.
Vernon
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I use one of the remotes for my grapple. Very little time loss in dropping hand down to operate as Vernon stated. My remotes do have QD but i leave the hoses attached on the remote if taking off the grapple and secure the open ends with tinfoil or other suitable material to keep out dust-dirt etc, securing them to the side of the loader so they dont get banged around. I am sure having the grapple plumbed to your loader handle would be nice but certainly not necessary.
chuck
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
I use one of the remotes for my grapple. Very little time loss in dropping hand down to operate as Vernon stated. My remotes do have QD but i leave the hoses attached on the remote if taking off the grapple and secure the open ends with tinfoil or other suitable material to keep out dust-dirt etc, securing them to the side of the loader so they dont get banged around. I am sure having the grapple plumbed to your loader handle would be nice but certainly not necessary.
chuck
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
leeinmemphis, I'm sure my setup is nothing special but I don't know so I'll lay it out for you on the off chance that its unique. I need front and back hydraulics depending on what I'm doing so I had my dealer plumb me some lines with disconnects on both front and rear, the lines are normal rubber hydraulic lines but they stay attached and are only connected when my root grapple is mounted in front, when my hydraulic auger is mounted on the rear I just disconnect the lines in the rear and plug in the auger lines in back. It has worked well for me and I agree with the previous poster about my root grapple if I were doing it for a living I'd probably want the controls on my loader handle but its not that much trouble to reach down for my remote lever to open and close the grapple matter of fact I'm very comfortable with the setup as it is no frills and simple pull back opens push forward closes and when its hooked to my auger back is up and forward is down.
Steve
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
leeinmemphis, I'm sure my setup is nothing special but I don't know so I'll lay it out for you on the off chance that its unique. I need front and back hydraulics depending on what I'm doing so I had my dealer plumb me some lines with disconnects on both front and rear, the lines are normal rubber hydraulic lines but they stay attached and are only connected when my root grapple is mounted in front, when my hydraulic auger is mounted on the rear I just disconnect the lines in the rear and plug in the auger lines in back. It has worked well for me and I agree with the previous poster about my root grapple if I were doing it for a living I'd probably want the controls on my loader handle but its not that much trouble to reach down for my remote lever to open and close the grapple matter of fact I'm very comfortable with the setup as it is no frills and simple pull back opens push forward closes and when its hooked to my auger back is up and forward is down.
Steve
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I have two rear remotes on my 5030. I run lines from the rear under the cab and attached soild QD above the loader QD. When I use the grapple I connect the rear and front remotes. This has worked well and fast for me.
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
I have two rear remotes on my 5030. I run lines from the rear under the cab and attached soild QD above the loader QD. When I use the grapple I connect the rear and front remotes. This has worked well and fast for me.
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I have a single rear remote that I use for the grapple. I find it is perfectly adequate and don't mind dropping my hand down to control it at all.
I have quick connects on the rear remotes and have three lengths of hydraulic hose to get to the grapple. Each has QCs. First one goes form remote under the tractor and up to FEL mounting post. Second from FEL post along FEL arm to FEL front cross piece and the third from the cross piece to the hydraulic cylinder. The last piece has QC on one side and permanent mountings to the grapple on the other. This works well. It allows me to take off the grapple (via QA) without needing to remove the hoses and it also leaves open the possiblity of taking off the FEL without removing the whole hose set up. The middle connection (at the FEL mounting post) is optional but was recommended by an experienced dealer so I did it. In retrospect I might have saved $80 or so by going with one long hose from rear remote to FEL cross piece but I'm still happy.
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
I have a single rear remote that I use for the grapple. I find it is perfectly adequate and don't mind dropping my hand down to control it at all.
I have quick connects on the rear remotes and have three lengths of hydraulic hose to get to the grapple. Each has QCs. First one goes form remote under the tractor and up to FEL mounting post. Second from FEL post along FEL arm to FEL front cross piece and the third from the cross piece to the hydraulic cylinder. The last piece has QC on one side and permanent mountings to the grapple on the other. This works well. It allows me to take off the grapple (via QA) without needing to remove the hoses and it also leaves open the possiblity of taking off the FEL without removing the whole hose set up. The middle connection (at the FEL mounting post) is optional but was recommended by an experienced dealer so I did it. In retrospect I might have saved $80 or so by going with one long hose from rear remote to FEL cross piece but I'm still happy.
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
Thanks everyone. I ordered a front bucket with a grapple hook this morning. I am going to try the rear remotes first and see how it works from there. Thanks again!
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
Thanks everyone. I ordered a front bucket with a grapple hook this morning. I am going to try the rear remotes first and see how it works from there. Thanks again!
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
If you already ordered the grapple with the cylinder, then I guess this suggestion will not be of much use.
But I think if I were to install a grapple on my front bucket, I would either want to use a cylinder with a pilot operated check valve on it, or use a control valve with PO check valves built into it.
I want to think I read reports in the past of graples losing their grip, so to speak, due to leakage throught the control valve. PO check valves would prevent this.
Just a thought... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
/ Question about setting up hydraulics on grapple??
If you already ordered the grapple with the cylinder, then I guess this suggestion will not be of much use.
But I think if I were to install a grapple on my front bucket, I would either want to use a cylinder with a pilot operated check valve on it, or use a control valve with PO check valves built into it.
I want to think I read reports in the past of graples losing their grip, so to speak, due to leakage throught the control valve. PO check valves would prevent this.
Just a thought... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
