Pulling Cat5e wire thru 1 1/4" poly pipe

[bebster]

Pulling Cat5e wire thru 1 1/4\" poly pipe

I've got about a 150' run from the house to the barn where my satellite dish is. I want to run the house internet off of that dish and am considering burying 1 1/4" black poly pipe (irrigation pipe usually) and pulling the Cat5e wire through that. Does anyone have experience doing this or think it will work? Ideally I'd like to run 2 of these wires with one as a spare. Thanks.

 

[Farwell]

Re: Pulling Cat5e wire thru 1 1/4\" poly pipe

I have never done it but I think the only problem with cat5 and other communication wiring is the distance between the devices. As far as running the wire through the poly pipe I can't think of any problem. It has been a while since I have read up on cat5 wiring, doesn't the package that the wire is sold in give distance limitations? You may want to keep the wire away from any AC wiring to stop interference.
Farwell

 

[SimS]

Re: Pulling Cat5e wire thru 1 1/4\" poly pipe

I think the distance limit for CAT 5 is something like 100 meters. You should be okay. Like others have said, watch out for AC interference.

Sim

 

[Varmintmist]

Re: Pulling Cat5e wire thru 1 1/4\" poly pipe

Unless the wire is rated for under ground use, dont do it. That pipe will get moist and the wire will suck the moisture up eventually. The more the weather varies, the faster it will go bad. I have seen hundreds of people who have buried the wrong stuff. It will start as static and end as a short, it will go bad.

You can get CAT3 direct burial that should work fine. You wont lose enough to notice. You can probably find CAT 5 UG rated cable if you want.

 

[gobbler]

Re: Pulling Cat5e wire thru 1 1/4\" poly pipe

Here at work we ran about 150' of Cat 5e that has a jelly-like substance inside the wire to a guard station. Don't remember the name of it but it was pricey. It was ran through condiut and was used because of moisture.

 

[MossRoad]

Re: Pulling Cat5e wire thru 1 1/4\" poly pipe

I ran two CAT5 and three RG6 coaxes through a 1-1/4" conduit between my house and garage. Our dish is mounted on the garage. Two of the coax are for feeding the reciever in the house and the third is a return line to watch TV in the garage. The CAT5 is for computer and telephone. Works fine.

Try and keep your run as straight as possible, because bends and turns add friction to the pull. If you start adding up the angles of the bends, you will see that once you get around 270 degrees, things start to bind up. Then you need to add a pull box to relieve the bind.

I've had great success with tying a rag or piece of foam rubber to some fishing line and sucking it through the conduit with a shop vac. Then you can pull in a heavier string or small rope with the fishing line. Finally, pull in the cables with the string. As suggested, you may want to use some pulling lubricant to make the wires slippery. They tend to not bind up that way. Also, you way want to pull in an extra string with the cables, in case you want to pull in some more wires, later. If you do decide to pull more wires later, a lubricant is almost a must, as the string and new wires will have a tendancey to wrap around the existing cables and the friction can burn through the insulation. Good luck in your project.

 

[PBinWA]

Re: Pulling Cat5e wire thru 1 1/4\" poly pipe

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It might be cheaper and easier to do it with some wireless routers or range extenders and directional antennas.

DLink Wireless Routers and Antennas

There are lots of Books and web sites that can help with this.

Just another option.

 

[cmuncy]

Re: Pulling Cat5e wire thru 1 1/4\" poly pipe

You will need to get what they refer to as " flooded cable" THis has the jell substance inside the jacket that will withstand moisture for years. That's wy the phone company uses it.

Now, will it work if you just use plain old CAT5e? Sure. For how long? You'll know when the cable has deteriorated. Watch for the orange pair to shed it's colors for starters.

If you can afford it, get the flooded cable. Typically around 2x the cost of regular cable. Well worth the initial investment though.

 

[CTyler]

Re: Pulling Cat5e wire thru 1 1/4\" poly pipe

Why are there recomendations for a buriable cable when it will be inside a plastic pipe?

My plastic conduits are 75' long and stay dry as bone. I'm running cat 5e, RG6 and 22awg alarm wires ~100ft by the time its' connected between the house and shop.

 

[mikim]

Re: Pulling Cat5e wire thru 1 1/4\" poly pipe

Depends on where you are at and soil conditions. Here in the gulf basin if you dig a 3' hole it will fill with water. Every underground conduit is full of water. It's just the way it is. So we always use "waterproof" cable in the conduits.