PTO water pump

[sdowney]

HI guys this is my first post but i have been a longtime lurker. I am having a great deal of trouble finding a PTO water pump to move large volumes of water. Does anyone out there have one they are looking to sell or rent? I am located in Illinois and I have a 30-40 acre wetand that I am looking flood from an adjacent creek. This property has been built as a waterfowl habitat/hunting project. We have the property sectioned off with levees to hold the water. Unfortunately I do not have the budget to spend 15,000 dollars on a new crisafulli or gatorpump, but I am looking for an older pump similar to these. If anyone has any information about a pump out there, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance,

Sean

 

[crazyal]

Welcome to TBN (as a poster). There use to be a company that ran an ad here for a pump. I think they were called trunk pump. Not sure if it would move the amount of water you need though. A friend owns a sprinkler business and every so often he gets a used pump from a company that an insurer forced them to replace due to age. There's not much need for them around here so he usually donates them.

 

[boggen]

you might find it easier, to get a PTO generator, and then buy some regular pond / pool water pumps (depends on how much length pipe/hose and inside diameter of the pipe/hose, and how high you will need to pump water up to) more head loss / pressure loss the bigger pump you will need.

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on a side note, you might try contacting local fire departments in and around your area. they might have a pump you could use.

you might also try contacting a local machinery rental place. look up "machinery rental" in the old paper phone book. and call around a couple hours away.
30 to 40 acres is a lot of water to flood.

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with you living fairly close to Chicago and great lakes. i think there are 2 dredging companies in and around Chicago area. that might be able to offer a large size pump

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if creak was the highest point and the area you are wanting to flood, was lower than creak. the cheapest and easiest route to flood would be to setup a "siphon" using 4" or larger size pipes.

have had to setup a few siphons on a couple lakes here, when overflows got clogged up. and bought cheapest smallest sump pump i could find, then 12V to 110V cigarette convertor for a vehicle. i used it to prime the 4" pipe. used a 3 valves. so i could prime the pipe up with water. and able to drain 1.5 to 2 acres of lake down 5 feet within a day or 2.

someone a while back, created a kinda like a old snow sled ((rails on bottom)) and used a long pole to push sump pump out into the water. vs trying to toss sump pump out into the water. so they could prime a siphon, or was it to water some grass

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1 acre = 43,560 square feet.
43,560 * 1 feet depth = 43,650 cubic feet
43,650 * 7.48 = 325,828.8 gallons
30 acres = 9,774,864 gallons of water

you will be looking at pump or pumps that could pump in the 10's of thousands of GPH (gallons per hour) anything less would be painfully slow.

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you might look into buying some regular "water pumps" powered by gas engine. and setting up a larger size or secondary larger fuel tank. and then just mounting them on a pallet. so you could move them around with a set of pallet forks on back of tractor or on pallet forks on the FEL.

that way you could just set the gas powered water pump were wanted. and then just go around twice a day, filling them up with gas. and letting the pumps run all day and night long. for how ever long it takes. i am gong to assume what ever you get it will take a few weeks perhaps a couple months counting down time of not wanting to get out there and pump water.

 

[gabby]

You're gonna need some serious gpm's to flood 30 acres. I use an old Berkeley pto pump to transfer water through 6" underground pipe. I think the pump has a 4" intake and 3" output. It will move 300-400 gpm with a 40 hp tractor running at half throttle without lugging the engine. You're gonna need at least that much or more. I found the pump at an auction. I also have another used pto pump that's bigger and runs off 1000 rpm pto that I bought at an auction but haven't used it yet.

 

[jenkinsph]

Your tractor could run a 12"x10" centrifugal pump and put a foot of water on 30 acres in about 40 hours. How much leakage you have and how much percolation you have would surely depend on your conditions. Lots of money for diesel fuel for a project of this scope. Old pumps usually get taken off line because they are worn out but you might find a good one if you do enough searching. If it were me I would try to find a good pump and build up a skid frame with pto mounting and racks for the suction lines. Nothing cheap about this kind of project.

 

[zzvyb6]

I have a vintage (mid 70's?) pto irrigation pump made by "Houle". I can check tomorrow for the model number if you would be interested. Its a centrifugal type, mounted on a small wheeled frame. Not sure how you would get it, but it will fit into the back of any truck or minivan. I got it at an auction a few years ago, expecting to use it to pump out a pond. It was used at a sod farm. You hook it up and cycle the priming lever and get out of the way. At only 1/2 throttle/rpm, the blast knocked me off the pump trailer and broke my arm.

I'm in mid michigan. might need a new tire or two. It's out in a 3 sided shed out of the weather. Make me an offer.

 

[HayDR]

Look for a used Hale PTO Irrigation pump. I found one on EBAY

 

[sdowney]

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the replies. I think i may have found a pump that will work for me. It is quite a drive but it is a 12 in. pump and can pump nearly 10,000 gpm. As far as seepage goes, we have gates on all the tiles that we can control so we lose very little water once we get it pumped. I will post a picture of the pump once we get it back to illinois! thanks again.
Sean

 

[sparc]

Look for an old fire truck (Pumper). I saw one for sale recently for $8500.00

 

[whirly]

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the replies. I think i may have found a pump that will work for me. It is quite a drive but it is a 12 in. pump and can pump nearly 10,000 gpm. As far as seepage goes, we have gates on all the tiles that we can control so we lose very little water once we get it pumped. I will post a picture of the pump once we get it back to illinois! thanks again.
Sean

Are you sure that ia GPM not GPH?

If the stream is close and at some point higher than your "pond", you could just build/dig a water ditch to the property and let nature do the work.