well the other day I saw an opportunity I could not pass up. Here in my part of virginia, and most places from what I have seen, FEL'S for my 1700 are pretty hard to come by at an affordable price. No amount of schmoozing would convince my wife to let me spend $3000 give or take on a loader. So I found a slip scoop in the good old buck saver AKA. trading post. $150 leinbach 30" in outstanding shape. They are pretty darn rare as a used piece of eqipment in my neck of the woods. Aside from that, all the ones I have seen ran $250 all the way to $425. I have been using this thing every day since I got it. Havent even taken it off the tractor. This thing rocks.