rogdan
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I guess I should correct myself. I did not mean tractors BUILT in the states, only SOLD in the States. )</font>
Please settle an argument on sales numbers
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The entire NA market for tractors < 100 HP in 2005 was right at 218,000 units. That is what AEM reported. The breakdown by company is not accesible in the ag industry like it is the automotive. All anyone can do is speculate about one competitor to another.
HayDR
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Branson and Montana have not been reporting sales #'s because they were not members last year. They may have chosen to be members in 2006. Just because these companies do not report doesn't mean that they didn't happen. Also member companies are forbidden from publicly releasing the sales figures. For sure the figures are broken down even to each zip code.
I knew Jinma was doing well, but I'm surprised to hear that they are bigger than MF, Kioti, and Mahindra. Guess my buddy isn't the only one with his numbers out to lunch. I obviously have some learning to do as well.
Chipperman
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Neil
Zetor was close to 600 BUT, keep in mind all of those were 67-107hp. None of them were compacts. There are a whole lot less utility tractors sold then compacts.
Happy Tractoring
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Zetor was close to 600 BUT, keep in mind all of those were 67-107hp. None of them were compacts. There are a whole lot less utility tractors sold then compacts.
Happy Tractoring
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HayDR
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Chipperman,
There were 75,781 40-100 HP tractors sold last year. 2005 Tractor Sales
There were 127,240 compacts sold. Good feeder calf prices have pushed the utility tractor sales. Take Mahindra 90+% of their sales are in the 40-70 HP category.
There were 75,781 40-100 HP tractors sold last year. 2005 Tractor Sales
There were 127,240 compacts sold. Good feeder calf prices have pushed the utility tractor sales. Take Mahindra 90+% of their sales are in the 40-70 HP category.
Maka
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This is from an article just posted under the Montana forum. I had heard these numbers and believe them to be correct but I was not willing to put them out until someone else did and since it was the CEO of Montana then I suppose I am fine with posting the numbers now.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Montana's Miller says he is optimistic the market will rebound and that Montana can increase its market share, which was 3.7 percent in 2005......... Montana sold some 3,300 tractors for revenue of $65 million through a network of 275 dealers. Miller says the company turned a profit, but he wouldn't disclose specifics.
The goal for 2006 is to reach $128 million on sales of 6,200 tractors and grow the dealer network to 400.)</font>
Here is a link to that Article with sales numbers for Montana Tractors
The sales numbers are on page 2 of this article and is easy to miss if you don't see the second page.
Thanks,
Maka
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Montana's Miller says he is optimistic the market will rebound and that Montana can increase its market share, which was 3.7 percent in 2005......... Montana sold some 3,300 tractors for revenue of $65 million through a network of 275 dealers. Miller says the company turned a profit, but he wouldn't disclose specifics.
The goal for 2006 is to reach $128 million on sales of 6,200 tractors and grow the dealer network to 400.)</font>
Here is a link to that Article with sales numbers for Montana Tractors
The sales numbers are on page 2 of this article and is easy to miss if you don't see the second page.
Thanks,
Maka
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<font color="blue">( Who are the top 15 or so manufacturers of 0 to 100 hp tractors in retail sales for America ) </font>
What about Tonka? They comprise the 0 HP tractors.
What about Tonka? They comprise the 0 HP tractors.
SnoFalls
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What about Tonka? They comprise the 0 HP tractors. )</font>
I miss those days! ... the sand in the PB&J mom fixed while "tractorin" just added to the experience /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
(ahh to be a kid again with no worries).
What about Tonka? They comprise the 0 HP tractors. )</font>
I miss those days! ... the sand in the PB&J mom fixed while "tractorin" just added to the experience /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
(ahh to be a kid again with no worries).
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<font color="blue"> What about Tonka? They comprise the 0 HP tractors. </font>
I think Little Tikes owns the 0 hp market. They overtook Tonka a number of years ago...
I think Little Tikes owns the 0 hp market. They overtook Tonka a number of years ago...
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<font color="green">I think Little Tikes owns the 0 hp market. They overtook Tonka a number of years ago...
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Really? Hmm I thought ERTL was bigger than those two combined? I heard ERTL was all american made. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Really? Hmm I thought ERTL was bigger than those two combined? I heard ERTL was all american made. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
RobS
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Ertl was bought a few years back by Racing Champions , who also have AMT, Johnny Lightning and others. They show their corporate HQ as Oakbrook, IL but have many global offices . Most everything I've seen lately is made in China or Taiwan.
Chipperman
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I think the problem here is the AEM numbers are retailed units. Most of the manufacturers or posters here are quoting units shipped to dealers which are typically a totally different number. AEM numbers would be much lower then units shipped to dealers in most cases.
Happy Tractoring
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I think the problem here is the AEM numbers are retailed units. Most of the manufacturers or posters here are quoting units shipped to dealers which are typically a totally different number. AEM numbers would be much lower then units shipped to dealers in most cases.
Happy Tractoring
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<font color="blue"> I heard ERTL was all american made. </font>
I don't know about Ertl, but these days I automatically assume almost everything is made in China.
However, the tractor in the photo I posted on the left is still 100 percent American made.
I don't know about Ertl, but these days I automatically assume almost everything is made in China.
However, the tractor in the photo I posted on the left is still 100 percent American made.
HayDR
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Chipperman,
In a decreasing market the number shipped to dealers are lower than retailed numbers. If you notice the compact tractor market has been in decline for almost a year now. The number are still very good but the only way to reduce inventory is ship less tractors if sales are in decline. Some brand may actually have increased their numbers during times of industry wide trends. When this happens that company is increasing their market share at the expense of other brands losing market share.
Utility tractor sales in the USA are still increasing but the largest share of the increase in utility tractor numbers over the last 4 years has come from Mahindra, JD, & Kubota. This could change but those 3 MFG's just seem to have the momentum.
In a decreasing market the number shipped to dealers are lower than retailed numbers. If you notice the compact tractor market has been in decline for almost a year now. The number are still very good but the only way to reduce inventory is ship less tractors if sales are in decline. Some brand may actually have increased their numbers during times of industry wide trends. When this happens that company is increasing their market share at the expense of other brands losing market share.
Utility tractor sales in the USA are still increasing but the largest share of the increase in utility tractor numbers over the last 4 years has come from Mahindra, JD, & Kubota. This could change but those 3 MFG's just seem to have the momentum.
JDCOMPACTMAN
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Chipperman,
In a decreasing market the number shipped to dealers are lower than retailed numbers. If you notice the compact tractor market has been in decline for almost a year now. The number are still very good but the only way to reduce inventory is ship less tractors if sales are in decline. Some brand may actually have increased their numbers during times of industry wide trends. When this happens that company is increasing their market share at the expense of other brands losing market share.
Utility tractor sales in the USA are still increasing but the largest share of the increase in utility tractor numbers over the last 4 years has come from Mahindra, JD, & Kubota. This could change but those 3 MFG's just seem to have the momentum.
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I Love Deere,But They Will Never Catch Kubota!They Just
Seem happy With Being #2. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
In a decreasing market the number shipped to dealers are lower than retailed numbers. If you notice the compact tractor market has been in decline for almost a year now. The number are still very good but the only way to reduce inventory is ship less tractors if sales are in decline. Some brand may actually have increased their numbers during times of industry wide trends. When this happens that company is increasing their market share at the expense of other brands losing market share.
Utility tractor sales in the USA are still increasing but the largest share of the increase in utility tractor numbers over the last 4 years has come from Mahindra, JD, & Kubota. This could change but those 3 MFG's just seem to have the momentum.
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I Love Deere,But They Will Never Catch Kubota!They Just
Seem happy With Being #2. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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