Paver brick install over septic PIPE.

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RCannon

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Hi all,
The spring time project for this year is installing a brick paver patio in the back yard. One of my issues is the septic pipe that runs from the house to the tank. Was wondering if anyone has tips/suggestions/warnings on how to do this without damaging the pipe? I do plan on renting the motorized tamper. Thanks.
 
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It might help to know the type of pipe. PVC pipe?
 
   / Paver brick install over septic PIPE. #4  
ok it is PVC still need a lot more info

how big is it?
how deep is it?
what kind of soil is over it?
what are you using below the pavers?
what PSI is the pipe?
what psi will the compactor put down?

Ever ho will know the answer (and it is not me) will need to know all of this and maybe a little more....but in general if it were me I would compact up to abot 4" each side of the pipe and then do the area over the pipe by hand. This run a sprinkler on it let it dry out but not all the way and do it again untill I was happy with the base. But I am in Fl in the sand
 
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I don't think you will have any problems. You already walk over it, mow over it, etc. A buried pipe is strong. Unless you put a strong directed force directy on the pipe, you are not likely to hurt it. A tamper will have a fairly large tamping surface and will spread the impact over that area, not a pointed force directly on the pipe.
If this is a recently installed septic system, you may get a little settling over time. You may have to take up some pavers and add a little sand to bring it back up to grade.
 
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I think Bill is correct in general terms but it depends on soil and depth. If it is not buried in sand make sure that there are no rocks around the pipe. The reason I know is.....I watered down an area, let it soak in, did a quick wheel roll with the truck and then set up the forms to pour concrete. It was only later when things started backing up into the house that I realized I had punched a rock through the pipe.

If it is over 12
 
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I had similar questions regarding a drainage pipe that I wanted to lay over a gravel driveway. The driveway gets some heavy traffic infrequently.

Anyway, I put the drainage pipe inside a schedule 40, 4" pipe. No trouble. Way over-engineering, but no worries now.

The pipe being surrounded/supported by dirt gives it tremendous strength.

Martin
 
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The pipe from the house to the septic tank should be schedule 40. As others said, there shouldn't be a problem unless it isn't sch. 40 & it is shallow. More info needed.
 
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Well, it should be at least 3 to six feet down, don't cha think?

Mine is like 5 feet down. I know cause I dug it up looking for it, and a way to punch another line into my system.

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
   / Paver brick install over septic PIPE. #10  
I need a break from Mopower, so I will tackle this one. All new systems uses either Schedule 40 PVC Sewer pipe, Cast Iron Soil Hub Pipe, Cast Iron Soil No-Hub Pipe, or XH Cast Iron Soil No-Hub Pipe. All of these are very durable. To determine how low in the ground they are, go into the basement and measure down from the sill to the top of the pipe. I am assuming that you have a basement. If not, then we will address that in another post when I learn that fact. Then go outside and measure down from the sill to the top of the soil. Subtract the smaller figure from the larger figure and that is how far down the pipe is in the ground where it leaves the house. Write this figure down. Is your yard flat or sloped? If flat it will make the calculations easier. We will deal with flat first. Measure to the clean out of the septic tank and record this distance. Then approximate the diameter of the septic tank and divide this by two and subtract this figure from the diameter of the tank. This will give you the point where the pipe enters the tank. Mark this point with a stick or rock. Then measure the distance from the wall of the house to the stick in inches and divide this figure by four. Then add this figure to the figure that you determined the pipe to be below the surface where it left the house. The division by four indicates the drop of 1/4" per foot. Generally speaking the line is below the frost level, so compaction should not be a problem. In MA, the first 10' is generally installed as cast iron and then transitions to PVC. Your local jurisdiction may be different..
 

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