Package deal math

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mark777

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I think this falls between TBN suppliers; Buyers Beware and some retail math on a Yanmar YM 1500D (under 1000 Hrs.)
I am sure most TBN people have seen this - But maybe for newer members and viewers in the tractor market.
Ebay: No bashing intended for honest folks
Could not identify the exact model of attachments so I am going on the cheapest available in (demographic) area:

Package includes New 16' tandem axle trailer (used wheels/tires?) -New 48" rotary cutter - New 48" box blade and used roto tiller. Buy it now for $4950.

The cheapest, New tandem axle trailer (4000# gvw) w/o frills-elec brakes & controller=$1299. GOOD used roto tiller average (thankyou Ernie's web page) $450.) I found them here cheaper but it takes 3 to make one good one-no thanks; decent New 48" Box blade best price $255. 2 left before steel price hike; New "48 rotary cutter $550. approx total=$2554.
This price, of course excludes pick up travel time, frieght and applicable taxes. I have made a few assumptions but tried to be realistic - so that makes a YM1500D < 1000 hrs for $2396.
ANYONE shopping for a nice tractor like this should know "It can't be done" Even if you want (need) trailer with these implements, and a YM1500 (parts) there are some serious
issues you must consider: After sales service, parts and partnership with your dealer. Priceless! The above prices are the best retail I could find - No dealer price brakes or quanity buys - just your average Joe looking for good prices on tractor and attachments. Anyone, please jump in and adjust my math or comparable deals that I am not aware of Regards, Mark
 
   / Package deal math #2  
Mark (et al), we and many other dealers have talked to shoppers about this kind of math until we're blue in the face. Don't forget overrunning clutch app. $50 and top link & pins app. $20--got a brake axle and break away unit on that trailer? Illegal in many states without these. You gotta ask yourself why wayne can't/doesn't sell the same equipment for the same price...why IS he so much higher? Possible answers..1. wayne is stupid and even after 10 years in this business does not know where to get the best prices, 2. wayne is stupid AND mean and wants his customers to have to pay more than other people for the same equipment, 3. wayne is a greedy money-monger as evidenced by the frame house on a crawlspace that his family lives in, 4. wayne wants to sell equipment of high enough quality that he never has to worry about his customers forming packs and hunting him down.

I'm sure others can come up with other variants, including the truth (which is closest to #4)--wayne wants to sell something that will leave purchasers happy 5 years from now rather than momentarily euphoric over an insanely low price. I have a recon 1500D on the lot--for parts. The customer gave up after a year plus of repair hell. I had a shopper today who recently bought a recon 2000 and an uninstalled Koyker loader on ebay, only to learn from the apparently none-too-informative seller that the loader is off a 2500.

You don't always get as much you pay for, but you almost never get more than you paid for.
 
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Wayne, of course. I knew that after studying it for a few days, then posting, I would overlook something. I purposely left out the ORC as I could not see one in detail. Man anything that spins on my tractor attachment gets one automatically. But the used rototiller has no cat 1-3 point hitch parts rendering the cutter and box blade useless without converting. That was a BIG oversight. And they would certainly include electric brakes with the new trailer discription so one of the assumptions on me is I dont think any of that is included. Certainly necessary - but not included.

Your a 4 - guilty of stating (or re-stating) the truth no matter how much it helps/hurts. Many fours on TBN. Don't think 2's and 3's would take the time to read or post.

Regards, Mark
 

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