Dealer ordered ck 30 ...dealer was .....

RMAL · Jul 15, 2004

Great,answered about 2 hours of questons,some after closing time.No pressure ,no upselling,no well its getting late,make up your mind.Straght up guy who looks you in the eye and responds with honest answers.Service On Site is in NY near the Buffalo/Rochester area.
Paid 13,900 out the door with free delivery(I live 35 miles a way).Gary said there wont be any $$$ surprises come delivery .I believe him.
Al

KiotiJohn · Jul 16, 2004

RMAL go back and delete your other post and just edit this one. It's much better than having two threads open.
WoW! I think you got a great price for that tractor. That's only a little more than $1K more than I paid for my CK20 with KL120 loader so you're getting a larger frame, 3 ranges, a better loader and 10 more HP for only just over a grand more!
As soon as you can, take a lot of good pictures of it or we're ALL coming over to beat you up /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I can't remember when we've had so much trouble getting a lot of good pics of a tractor as we have with these new CKs!!
Congratulations on a great buy. John

depratt_equip · Jul 16, 2004

You get HST or the Shutte Tranny? Also did you get a loader and what kind of tires? Details, details we need details!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif and don't forget pics when you get it everyone will want to see those /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

RMAL · Jul 16, 2004

Details.....shuttle shift,ag tires,Kl130 loader,BB20-60" boxblade,Kodiak 1800 lbs boompole,Kioti brush grill guard,woods tothbar,drawbar,rear light...hmmm guess I went nuts.Not sure if I picked the right tires,I could go with industral at no extra cost(extra cost at other Kioti dealer).
John I think the geared CK30 are 2 ranges,hst 3 ranges.I would love to be wrong on this.
Al

depratt_equip · Jul 16, 2004

wow!! sounds like you got a heck of a deal. I would have bought all that for that price too!! You'll love the CK30!!

RMAL · Jul 16, 2004

The tractor and fel 13,900.Total price with all the other items,15124.00.
Al

Golfgar4 · Jul 16, 2004

Still a great price!

And personally, I'd go with the R4's. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

KiotiJohn · Jul 17, 2004

( John I think the geared CK30 are 2 ranges,hst 3 ranges.I would love to be wrong on this.
Al )
You may be right Al, I haven't seen one, and the Kioti site doesn't say. I would be very surprised though if they didn't make it 3 like the HST model. That way they keep both models pretty much interchangable. Let me know when you find out okay? Thanks, John

Kodiak_Dave · Jul 18, 2004

Hi Guys
I'm getting a little confused. My understanding was that the CK series was available in either straight gear or hst (No SHUTTLE). I like a shuttle shift but I will order the HST rather than a straight gear drive.
Regards to all
Thanks for pics to Kioti Kevin

KiotiJohn · Jul 18, 2004

The CK20 manual is straight gear. HST is available. The CK25 and 30 both have either HST or sychronized shuttle (don't have to stop completely before changing F/R). The main gears are also fully synchronized as well.
Kioti has all of this information on their site. Go look at the specs on the tractor in which you're interested and you'll get the answers you need. John

Kodiak_Dave · Jul 18, 2004

Sorry John, I have been on Kioti's web site every day for about three weeks and I still am not clear on how these transmissions work. If all the information was on their web site I wouldn't be here. One of the posts I read said that you either got a gear drive or a hst. The specs say either mechanical shuttle or synchronised shuttle or hst. I'm guessing the mechanical shuttle means there is no shuttle. So, if I understand correctly fully synchronised shuttle fully synchronised main means that you have your shifter for selecting your gear and another for selecting forward or reverse. You can change direction or gear without stopping the machine. If you put the shuttle in the center you are effectively in nuetral. I'm trying to correlate it to the Case 580 I drive which has the shuttle to let you change direction but you have to stop to change gear. Which I would guess that means the shuttle is synchronised but not the main.

JayC · Jul 19, 2004

I don't see in the specs where the CK 25 and 30 comes in mechanical shuttle. It has a fully synchronised shuttle shift. That means you don't have to come to a stop to shift the lever into reverse or vice-versa. With a mechanical shuttle, you have to some to a stop before shifting the lever to reverse or vice-versa. The main gear for the CK 25 and 30 is synchronised, too. That means you don't have to come to a stop to change gears.

Do you have to stop before changing direction on you Case 580? If so, then it is a mechanical shuttle. If you don't have to come to a stop before changing directions, then it is synchronised. You are right, your 580 does not have a synchronised main gear.

KiotiJohn · Jul 19, 2004

( The specs say either mechanical shuttle or synchronised shuttle or hst. I'm guessing the mechanical shuttle means there is no shuttle. )
The specs for the CK25/30 don't say anything about mechanical shuttle. As JayC stated, they have sychronized shuttle and main gear. As he explained, mechanical is a shuttle where you have to stop, change shuttle lever to F/R and go. Not necessary on sychro shuttle(you do have to push the clutch though on Kioti). It sometimes takes a while to understand all these different concepts until you've used them all! The DKs have sychro shuttle as well, and receive a lot of praise from their owners. I hope this helps. John

sxray · Jul 29, 2004

rmal, do you have a phone number and address for service on site? thanks, ray

KiotiJohn · Jul 29, 2004

( As he explained, mechanical is a shuttle where you have to stop, change shuttle lever to F/R and go. Not necessary on sychro shuttle(you do have to push the clutch though on Kioti). )
Kodiak Dave, one thing I should have pointed out is that both types of shuttle tractors are GEAR tractors. Not straight gear, but gear tractors nonetheless. The confusion may come from the CK20 only offering straight gear or HST. As I said before, not the case with the 25/30. They both offer synchronized shuttle and main gear or HST. I hope this is clearer. John

RMAL · Jul 29, 2004

Ray ..Service On Site Rt 31 ,Middleport NY 716 735 3691.Ray is sx motocross
Al

Kodiak_Dave · Jul 30, 2004

KiotiJohn
Thanks for the info on the trannys and the great link to the pics you took! I am in the paper process of getting my CK25HST on the barge and up here. I decided to go with the HST as my property is VERY hilly and we will have a lot of loader work we will do. I wish I could make the leap to the CK 30 but its $1700 more from my dealer.
Thanks to All
Dave K

KiotiJohn · Jul 30, 2004

( Thanks for the info on the trannys and the great link to the pics you took! )
Hey you're welcome! Congratulations on the decision. I sure liked that tractor when I tried it out the other day. I especially liked that it had an extra range over my CK20. One hint about the HST on these CKs. There is a ring inside the HST connector that sometimes gets a little sticky. You will need to occasionally spray it with WD40 or PB Blaster to keep it from sticking. You'll be able to see where I'm talking about when you get it. You'll move the HST pedall and look down, just to the right of the middle platform and see where the pivot is moving when moving the pedal. There's a hole going in there, just spray up in there and you'll have no problem. This was a problem on my CK20 until someone at Kioti said to keep it lubed. I haven't had a sticking problem again. If you have any questions, let me know. John