Growing up on blue berry farm and working on fairly large cranberry farm 20+yrs off road was standard for price and was allowed for farmers !! Now retired in Western NC off road not real easy to find but I did find some near me.I have a L4701 when I first purchased I put road diesel in tractor then I started with off road but it noticed tractor regeneration was more often ?? Then I rented small excavator I put off road in it was loaded with water.Service tech from Sun Belt told me road diesel was filtered more than off road not just dye.I’m using On Road from now on and Kubota fuel additive. Just curious on others experiences and opinions ??
On road diesel vs off road NO 2 red
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Diggin It
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I haven't had any problem with it. I get it from a bulk supplier that has a fairly high volume, so it's relatively fresh.
Now you owe me a barrel of blueberries.
Now you owe me a barrel of blueberries.
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No problems here, either. Try another supplier. That guy sounds like a dope.
We own a fuel distribution business. Ultra low sulphur off road and highway diesel is the same here. The red dye is injected in the loading head at the refinery as the truck is being loaded.
For a brief period of time years ago the sulphur content was higher in off road as they staged down the sulphur content to meet emissions standards on hwy diesel. But today it is all 15ppm.
It is more important how the fuel is being stored wherever you are buying it.
For a brief period of time years ago the sulphur content was higher in off road as they staged down the sulphur content to meet emissions standards on hwy diesel. But today it is all 15ppm.
It is more important how the fuel is being stored wherever you are buying it.
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I get off-road from a station that is supplied by a multi-state company and have never seen water. It may not be winter-grade enough at times but many people use it in summer.
Avenger
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I recently switched to dyed diesel after finding a station near me. Its a further drive to get it, but cheaper than my usual gas station.
Initially, I was concerned about the age of the dyed diesel sitting in the underground tank. I didn't think many people would use it. But every time, EVERYTIME, I go to fill up my cans I have to wait in line as contractors with trucks pulling flatbeds with excavators on them fill up their machinery, or farmers fill up the 500 gal tank in their beds, or someone filling up loads of 5gal jugs like myself.
It appears that my initial concern was unfounded. Not sure how large that underground tank is, but at the rate I see people pumping dyed diesel, I'm not concerned about the age anymore.
The sulfur content was never a concern. I know the reason dyed diesel, taxes. What's in it, is the same. Well, except for the dye. I have not noticed a change in my tractor after running dyed diesel for a few months now. Regen is the same. Smell is the same. Power, etc... Its all the same.
Initially, I was concerned about the age of the dyed diesel sitting in the underground tank. I didn't think many people would use it. But every time, EVERYTIME, I go to fill up my cans I have to wait in line as contractors with trucks pulling flatbeds with excavators on them fill up their machinery, or farmers fill up the 500 gal tank in their beds, or someone filling up loads of 5gal jugs like myself.
It appears that my initial concern was unfounded. Not sure how large that underground tank is, but at the rate I see people pumping dyed diesel, I'm not concerned about the age anymore.
The sulfur content was never a concern. I know the reason dyed diesel, taxes. What's in it, is the same. Well, except for the dye. I have not noticed a change in my tractor after running dyed diesel for a few months now. Regen is the same. Smell is the same. Power, etc... Its all the same.
JCoastie
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Local LS dealer was having tractors come in with fuel issues, all used off road diesel. They've been running some tests to try to figure things out, so far inconclusive, but they are currently recommending on road fuel at the moment.
It is 'supposed' to be the same fuel, but the many many questions you can read about it here and other places, seems to point that it isn't, at least not in all places. This is a rural farming area, so the red fuel turnover should be decent.
It is 'supposed' to be the same fuel, but the many many questions you can read about it here and other places, seems to point that it isn't, at least not in all places. This is a rural farming area, so the red fuel turnover should be decent.
jaxs
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People love teasing around with diesel like a cat with a half dead mouse. They absolutly refuse killing it and moving on. Farmers do not plant special soybeans for use in off road diesel. Processing plants don't run special shifts just for off road diesel. There's only one reason off road is red and that reason has nothing to do with how it was made or how it burns. All diesel is exactly the same right up to the moment someone pours red dye it. Why is red dye put in diesel? To make it tax exempt. If you are caught with red diesel in anything other than an off road machine,the fine is huge and in some cases have earned time in jail. From a legal standpoint,you are 100 times better off caught stealing diesel than using off road in your grocery getter. You can hear more than enough lies from the news media,there's no need going on line or to the coffee shop to hear people lie or as some call it "blow smoke up your kazoo".
Cranblue,if I was you I'd find that ".Service tech from Sun Belt told me road diesel was filtered more than off road not just dye." ,pour dye in his fuel tank then call the IRS to report a guy working for Sunbelt is using and peddling off diesel for use on the road. Letting him set in prison to swap lies with other idiots might break him from sucking eggs. Rant over
Cranblue,if I was you I'd find that ".Service tech from Sun Belt told me road diesel was filtered more than off road not just dye." ,pour dye in his fuel tank then call the IRS to report a guy working for Sunbelt is using and peddling off diesel for use on the road. Letting him set in prison to swap lies with other idiots might break him from sucking eggs. Rant over
RustyA
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Back when the transition to ultra-low happened in 2007 the on-road fuel was ultra low but most off-road was not for a period of time as off-road vehicles did not require it yet. By 2010 off-road was mandated to be ultra-low same as on-road with dye added due to no road tax. Most of these off-road myths are from that time period and have not "died"
