Off for repair

[maverick660]

I have had it for approx two weeks and 25 hrs.
Believe it or not the Bradco hoe fell off the sub-frame. Subsequent damage to paint, grease fittings, bucket cylinder and hydro lines. It will be gone for a while. It appears the the two large pins that secure the hoe with the frame worked loose and fell out. The service tech informed me they had used other pins because the originals would not fit past the wheels ... lack of clearance because of the R4s. Maybe back next weekend maybe not, this wil be the first test of how they stand behind their setup (as this issue was not caused by original design). Yes Yes Yes I inspect prior to each key turn.
Mav

 

[BigD23]

Ouch!

 

[rbargeron]

This is a pretty serious screw-up by whoever "redesigned" the pin connection. On other Bradco backhoes I've seen there are wedges that drop in from above that absolutely fix the bh to the subframe. The connection needs to be rigid - with no credible way to loosen or fail. If you get your machine back and have any doubt about the job I'd suggest contacting Bradco directly. Posting pictures here could also bring some ideas that might be useful. Good luck with this. Take care, Dick B

 

[Ductape]

Dunno if this would help you, but when I installed my Woods hoe, the backhoe pins (actually bolts) would slightly rub the insides of my tires. I ended up buying Kubota's rear whell spacers...... under $200. The spacers not only made plenty of clearance for the backhoe pins, they made a noticeable improvement in stability.

 

[maverick660]

Thanks for the info so far. I will know more monday morn when the techs have a chance to take a look. Oh, I was wondering how crazy is it to ask if at this time with 25+ hours to have the 50 hour service performed? I figure the surfaces must have mated at this time... and maybe the service is at 50 hours is for a nice round number and so that you are not back with the tractor in two days/weeks.
Thanks Mav

 

[LBrown59]

Thanks for the info so far. I will know more monday morn when the techs have a chance to take a look. Oh, I was wondering how crazy is it to ask if at this time with 25+ hours to have the 50 hour service performed? I figure the surfaces must have mated at this time... and maybe the service is at 50 hours is for a nice round number and so that you are not back with the tractor in two days/weeks.
Thanks Mav

I'd wait to it has the 50 hours on it.
It may have break in oil in it.
Breake in oil should be run fot 50 hours. 25 hours isn't enought time for it.

 

[maverick660]

Thanks LB59
I guess i was just trying to avoid another period of time without my new toy and also the round trip service fee of $110.00 ....
well after paying so much for it i surely want to break it in correctly.
Mav

 

[greenmule]

Is there really such a thing as break in oil?

 

[Firefighter Kubota]

Is there really such a thing as break in oil?

Yes, but I HIGHLY DOUBT anyone is using it in a backhoe. Usually in racing engines, hightemp applications...


Oh Yeah, Sorry to hear about the BH Mav...Good Luck!

 

[maverick660]

I do not think the BH or FEL have a break in, I was referring to the engine. The service department told me they had not gotten around to look at it yet ("it is in triage sir") they will get to it as soon as possible. They picked it up within an hour from my call, you know they are glad that no injuries were reported. FYI they are approx 35 mins from my place.
Mav

 

[greenmule]

I bet its got plain old motor oil in it,and might even be a good thing to change fluids and filters early,I always do on everything,[might stretch out the second one sometimes],but new things,sometimes have metal shavings and what not,plus they may have been sitting out for a year or two,and have moisture in fluids.

But,if your having the dealer do it,and he does,your covered.

 

[Firefighter Kubota]

I do not think the BH or FEL have a break in, I was referring to the engine. The service department told me they had not gotten around to look at it yet ("it is in triage sir") they will get to it as soon as possible. They picked it up within an hour from my call, you know they are glad that no injuries were reported. FYI they are approx 35 mins from my place.
Mav

It was more a rebutle to someones suggestion that anyone one would be using break in oil anywhere in a small tractor...There is of course break in time with the original engine oil but that is not what they were suggesting.

 

[maverick660]

Update
Well I called Monday and e-mailed Tuesday with no solid answerin regards to the repairs needed (it is triage sir we will get to is asap).... well today I got one
Sir your tractor is all set and will be back in your garage tonight.... if that is ok with you? This is great
picked up Sat and returned Wed.... should be here within the hour
I will update after and have some info regarding the upgrade on the BH pin system

 

[maverick660]

The BH is back! they removed the old setup and welded new hangers for the release pin to sit in. It seems much more secure...to the point i cannot get one of them out without lots of force the other is a bit easier... New bucket cylinder installed and painted and grease fittings repaired
And for info I purchased it a Ahearn Equipment in Spencer Ma. They truly are the tractor guys
Mav

 

[Taiser]

Welded new hangars??? Shouldn't they have replaced it with a whole new outfit? After all this is a new machine! Who knows what else could have been damaged that can't be detected yet?

How does the weld look and does the paint match up?

 

[oregunbota]

+1Taiser. I'm certainly not an expert but I wouldn't like the idea of having my backhoe mounting points welded back on. Im still wondering how the hoe could have come off and hit the ground. I have the Kubota bh75 and if I sheared both top connectors, ( not very likely ) it would still just pivot down in the lower sub-frame hooks. Maybe Bradco does theirs differently. I also think that I'd try putting it on and off a few times to see if " lots of force " on the one side is just an alignment problem.

 

[maverick660]

What happened is the top pins sit in this holder/bracket/L shape piece of metal and the Bradco comes with them mounted on the outside of the sub-frame. This setup was changed by the dealer because the pins would not clear the R4s. You are right if the pins come out the hoe would pivot to the ground and drag. I was driving the unit and the pins had too much room/tolerance ie not close enough... they never left the tractor they were just not deep enough to hold the BH on. All I can tell u is while operating the tractor on uneven bumpy ground the hoe came off the top and bottom attachments just goes to show u always buckle up use the ROPS and double check everything because it can and does happen!
yes the welds look strong and the paint is good although because they are mounted on the inside u cannot see the paint anyway. I am still working on them regarding the unit and possible unforeseen future issues I really needed to get it back ASAP which I did to finish a job.
Thanks Mav