Flail Mower New Land Pride FM25 series flail mowers

[tlj87]

Has anyone heard anything about these? Not much info is posted online, other than sizes from 48-84" and Made in USA. The FM25 series appears to be a different design than the current Land Pride FM20, 30 and 40 which are sourced from Maschio (Italian built) from what I understand.

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[tlj87]

I phoned Land Pride. Apparently this new FM25 line is manufactured by them, here in the USA. They will eventually stop importing and rebranding the Italian made Maschio flails, though he couldn't say exactly when. Pricing is similar to the FM 21/31/41 line, although they've never offered a 48" model until now.

 

[leonz]

One of the resident members of the "Flail Mower Nation" living in your state of Pennsylvania outside of Williamsport, PA owns one of the models of the Maschio Orchard and Vineyard Flail Shredder Mowers that are hiding under Landpride paint. He has Mahindra Power for his Maschio/Landpride flail mower.

The imported Maschio/Landpride flail shredders mowers have the trash door and that standard equipment offering is a godsend because you do not have to crawl under the mower to work on it AND the Trash Door allows you to mow high dense brush without plugging the flail shredder.

I would rather see you invest in one of the Maschio Orchard and Vineyard flail shredders as they include the trash door on their imported Italian Orchard and Vineyard Flail Shredder Mower models they are offering as far as I know and I would not buy one without the trash door.

If you can buy one of Maschio units painted/branded as the Landpride units will not have the trash door.

It will be a real shame and sales will drop if Kubota does not offer the trash door as standard equipment for thier flail shredder mowers.

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OK now that I have seen the jpeg. images you linked to:


1. they are not using flail shredder hammer knives that gets a minus.

a. the side slicers are simple sheared side slicers and I am unsure if they are hardened heat treated side slicers.

B. The side slicer hangers are secured with nylock nuts and bolts-not good in my opinion as they use strap iron to mount the knife hangers on a single stub weld and if an impact occurs the rotor will go out of balance if the metal weld stub is broken off this gets a negative -.
1. there is a very good reason the mounting stations on flail mower rotors are designed the way they are with twin stub weldments for side slicers or hammer knives this gets a negative -.

2.The trash door only has a "fully open position" that works for changing knives and shredding tall brush in one pass- that gets a demerit only because the existing Maschio units can be adjusted to limit discharge flow in tall brush where locking the hood in several positions with the bolts provided by Maschio can offer a fully open to closed/sealed position+-.
3. the recutting bars are kept in the new units (a big plus)++++++++++++++++++++

4. the recutting bars are only held in place with spring cotter pins(that gets a minus as heavy brush mowing will eventually break the spring pins and the recutting bars will fall out (that gets a minus) It will be too late when the user finds them gone. - -

a. they need to replace the spring pins holding the recutting bars with fine threaded bolts and nylock nuts to hold them in place OR use a continuous rod with a cotter key on both ends like the Vrisimo units use to hold their side slicers in place on thier flailmower rotors +- .

The images do not show whether their mowers have the shields in the intake side of the flail mowers -+.


My thoughts after owning and operating flail mowers since 1980.

 

[Ford850]

I'm curious if anyone else has looked into these Land Pride flails. Here's a link to the parts manual https://www.landpride.com/ari/attach/lp/public/manuals/333-138p.pdf and a spec sheet https://www.landpride.com/ari/attach/lp/public/specs/333-138s.pdf

 

[Ford850]

No one has researched or bought a new style Land Pride flail mower?

 

[vlcakc]

No one has researched or bought a new style Land Pride flail mower?

I bought a new Land Pride FM 2584 flail earlier this year. Some of my initial impressions are included in this thread: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/392105-new-tractor-flail-mower.html
Due to a family health issue I've not used the mower as much as I planned. I have mowed about 20 acres with it including some overgrown pasture land with a lot of saplings up to 1" in diameter. No problems so far. I ordered the mower with side slicer knives with an extra set of hammer knives for the really heavy stuff. I've yet to install the hammer knives.

Although I have the upmost respect for Leonz's opinions I have to disagree somewhat on his comments about trash doors, at least for this mower. The mower does have a top access door for maintenance. As he mentioned it isn't designed to be use as a trash door. The FM 2584 does have a large discharge opening in the rear that is permanently open that does a great job of moving out the debris. I've mowed some pretty heavy cover including brush without the slightest problem with the cuttings choking the mower housing.

The FM84 with the side slicer knives doesn't give as smooth a finish cut as the New Holland 918H flail I owned previously. It does fine for pastures, etc., but wouldn't be the best for residential lawns. The NH 918H had a lot more knives which I think accounted for the better cut. If a smooth cut is important to you get the finish knife option on the FM 25.

So far I'm very pleased with the performance of the FM 2584.

Vic

 

[leonz]

No one has researched or bought a new style Land Pride flail mower?

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Hello Ford850,

The original land pride flail mowers were the Maschio brand orchard and vineyard brush mowers with the Land Pride implement paint.
Sadly, Kubota/Landpride decided to build these flail mowers in the United States rather than to continue with thier relationship with the Maschio group and continue with their import export contract agreement.

 

[leonz]

Hello Vlcac,

Sorry to hear that you were under the weather. I am glad that the new flail mower has been working well for you so far.

 

[Ford850]

Thanks for the reply vlcakc. I'm considering a flail to mow heavy weeds and grass, along with saplings, annually. The issue I have is with hundreds of saplings shredded yearly, leaving dried hard stumps for years to follow. My rotary King Kutter does a great job on them but it can't cut lower than 5". Even with dull blades, some of the stumps remain strong and sharp, and that causes tire punctures. So my thought is a flail could shred the saplings much lower and leave very short stumps and little threat to tires. I saw the new Land Pride advertised and was looking for feedback - yours is great. I'd be using it on a similar tractor too (Case DX55). I also considered a flail with hydraulic side offset and vertical cutting ability to keep my trails open.

 

[vlcakc]

"Hello Vlcac,

Sorry to hear that you were under the weather. I am glad that the new flail mower has been working well for you so far."

Thanks for the kind thoughts Leonz. The family health issue I referred to is actually for my Wife, not I.

Thanks for the reply vlcakc. I'm considering a flail to mow heavy weeds and grass, along with saplings, annually. The issue I have is with hundreds of saplings shredded yearly, leaving dried hard stumps for years to follow. My rotary King Kutter does a great job on them but it can't cut lower than 5". Even with dull blades, some of the stumps remain strong and sharp, and that causes tire punctures. So my thought is a flail could shred the saplings much lower and leave very short stumps and little threat to tires. I saw the new Land Pride advertised and was looking for feedback - yours is great. I'd be using it on a similar tractor too (Case DX55). I also considered a flail with hydraulic side offset and vertical cutting ability to keep my trails open.

The FM25 can be set to mow very close to the ground, so stump length should be minimal. If you do a lot of saplings, the hammer blades would probably be a better option. I intend to install my hammer blades before I tackle some heavy black locust and sumac sapling areas in the pasture. Vic