New Holland or John Deere? Which one to buy?

[oldtractors]

I recently participated in a ride n drive and drove both models. I think you made the right choice. One thing I noticed was the turning radius on the New Hollands was terrible. They claim a tight turning radius, but that is with the super steer axle. The other big difference is the NH brakes are mechanical, and the JD 5Es are hydraulic. That means no adjustments ever on the JD. I also thought the NH loader was a lot less capacity than the JD, but you aren't looking at the loaders.

The drivetrain in the Deere is the same one that they use to use in the 75 PTO HP models (90 engine), so it should be indestructible at 55 engine.

I thought the Kubotas were pretty similar to the Deere, but the NH wasn't even in the same class.

 

[spruce Deere]

I recently participated in a ride n drive and drove both models. I think you made the right choice. One thing I noticed was the turning radius on the New Hollands was terrible. They claim a tight turning radius, but that is with the super steer axle. The other big difference is the NH brakes are mechanical, and the JD 5Es are hydraulic. That means no adjustments ever on the JD. I also thought the NH loader was a lot less capacity than the JD, but you aren't looking at the loaders.

The drivetrain in the Deere is the same one that they use to use in the 75 PTO HP models (90 engine), so it should be indestructible at 55 engine.

I thought the Kubotas were pretty similar to the Deere, but the NH wasn't even in the same class.

Welcome to TBN oldtractors! HE HE HE HE But the blue one is cheaper! HE HE HE HE!!!!!!! And the green one does turn sharp with the STANDARD axle! Grew up blue, then one day looked at other colors a while back and blue was loosen' ground with other makes quick. Can not stress importance of lookn' at all of the models available to you, brand/dealer loyalty be darned.

 

[jdbnh]

JD is horrible.................

 

[Trails2004]

JD is horrible.................

I guess you peddle New Holland - Right

Nothing wrong with the color blue, orange, red, yellow, grey, green or purple poka dots. The color should be chosen by the needs and expectations of the consumer.

Most success sales professional's understand that hacking at the competition is a lost oppourtunity with any customer.

You should learn to focus on the merits of your product and not discredit others in the process.

 

[arrabil]

Whats really funny to me is his name...

jdbnh

To me that says John Deere Beats New Holland.

 

[Trails2004]

Whats really funny to me is his name...

jdbnh

To me that says John Deere Beats New Holland.

I didnt notice that -LOL

 

[brin]

Oh, I forgot. I got John Deere little tractor lighted Christmas Tree lights to put on the Christmas Tree. I think there are a dozen little tractors. Try to find New Holland lights.
Aranon

Well you have convinced me, I guess I will sell my great NH TC-29 since I can't get Christmas tree lights with little NH tractors on them..Yep, makes good sense to me...

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

JD is horrible.................

jdbnh, You better watch out, your eyes might turn green with envy.


Aranon, congrats and be careful on that new machine. I came in late here but it sounds like you did your homework and got a good deal. I was going to offer that the dealer can be the difference in decisions like this. Don't just listen to them blab, look around for yourself at the parts department and shop. Of course everyone wants everything for free when at the dealership but its actually in the best interest to pay fair pricing so hopefully they thrive and you have a place for parts and service for the long haul.

 

[Trails2004]

jdbnh, You better watch out, your eyes might turn green with envy.


........ its actually in the best interest to pay fair pricing so hopefully they thrive and you have a place for parts and service for the long haul.

Now that is some "sage" advice- Humm what color is sage

 

[Creekside Quarters]

JD is horrible.................

I also definitely agree that you made the right decision. Couple years ago we were also in the market for similiar size tractors and we looked at the TT-A series from NH. It was a very base machine and really had no options or features and lacked the syncronized shift between forward and reverse. We ended up buying a JD5205 and have never been happier with it's performance. The sync. shift is a must when using a loader and moving equipment around. And the service from JD is top notch and their parts aren't overpriced as some may like to say. And most important, at least in our area, there are alot more JD dealerships around and when you do need parts or service you can have them in a day.

Of course a salesman from NH would be talking up their own model, wouldn't expect any less.

Good luck with your tractor, maybe post some pictures of it.

 

[Soundguy]

Whats really funny to me is his name...

jdbnh

To me that says John Deere Beats New Holland.

And here I thought it meant he had an old JD B, and it performed so bad he switched to New holland machines. ( BTDT.. and my 'B' is parked in the barn )

soundguy

 

[brin]

What chinese manufacturer is making the John Deere engines now ?

 

[Glen Watkins]

Just check the serial number on the engine it will tell you. Don't think China is an option!

John Deere Engine Serial Numbers Explained

 

[Trails2004]

Just check the serial number on the engine it will tell you. Don't think China is an option!

John Deere Engine Serial Numbers Explained

Thanks for the info- I dont think that applies to my 790

 

[atulkapur]

WOW ,that si some great feedback. I am based in India and like to off road. I have been offorading basically on a Polaris 850 XP and want to transfer omnto a 75 HP tractor and use it for some similar purpose.....NH has larger tires and is 4 cylinder and a JD has smaller tires (about an inch slimmer) but has a turbo....so which one sir ?

 

[jdbnh]

I made my decision and bought the Green one. Several things weighed my decision. One was by a freak accident of fate I had to take a detour and drive several miles through the country to get to another highway. On the journey, I saw not one, not two but nine different tractors working or driving down the road that I had to pass. Guess how many of them were green? Eight. One was MF. Was it a hint? Made me think.

The other and main decision was that the John Deere's transmission was better in that I can shift while moving just using the clutch. The New Holland's tranny made you have to stop, change gears and then start off again. On the John Deere you can go forward and then reverse without stopping which will be good when using the bucket/loader. And I like the way the joystick was laid out on the JD. The NH looked like they stuck it up there as an afterthought.

I got the 5055E, with the 563 loader, the bucket, the MX6 med duty shredder, the fork lift package with 48" forks, the quick attach PTO implement changer over package, and a Knife blade for the bucket and a set of remotes on the back for $28,980.00. Oh, and five John Deer Tee Shirts and a cuzy. I told them the T-shirt thing was a deal breaker. Oh, and the stands for the loader.

All in all, I think I got a pretty good deal. It was the best one I could make. Almost the same price as the NH. Plus think of all the JD stuff I can buy at the tractor house. Key chains, Hats, knifes, baby booties, crib pillows, belt buckles, neckerchiefs, toys, little farms, little tiny tractors and backhoes for the grand kids, etc. You can't say that for the other color.

Thanks for all the input, although I really was looking for more. I really thought several people would have owned both of these, but maybe those are the ones who don't log onto sites like this.

I pick it up tomorrow after lunch. I get to play with it over the holidays. At least I got my Christmas present.

Thanks again,

Aranon

dont know what NH dealer you wee dealing with but they should have showed you the Workmaster 55 instead of the TT-A series. the workmaster is a 4 cylinder turbo, has one rear remote, draft control on three point, and has a shuttle shift trans so no mater what gear you are on your forward and reverse you dont have to stop to change directions. it is cheaper the the 5055E too. oh well. congrats.

 

[charleyfarmall]

I looked at the workmaster and the Deere. Didn't buy either one of them, but I thought the Deere looked a little heavier. I did not like the feel of the long shuttle lever on the workmaster. Good looking tractor though..