New Holland Hayliner 67 capabilities

2addy · Sep 17, 2016

I searched for questions regarding a New Holland Hayliner 67 and found mostly 68 info (including a recent thread that had some really good info) that didn't exactly answer my questions/concerns. My JD dealer has a 67 that is going to wholesale and asked me if I was interested in it. I haven't physically inspected it yet (I will Monday or Tuesday) but from the pictures it looks to be in decent condition; I was told it was stored indoors. He told me around $1500 but after doing some sales research, I think that's pretty high.

So, question one, if I could buy it in the $1000 range, what glaring issues should I look for? This is a much older machine so I'm not expecting new machine performance but I don't want major downtime in the middle of baling. I will have winter to do any refurbishing in a heated shop so I'm not worried about doing that; just looking for some insight. And question two, if anyone has a like baler, is it a light duty baler or could it handle regular use (1-2K alfalfa bales on mostly flat ground)? It seems like it could be a good deal but sometimes things are not what they could have been....

Thanks for any thoughts on this.

RickB · Sep 17, 2016

$1500 is insane. Condition and capability of the baler is immaterial. Tell him you are insulted and leave. Find somebody else to sell you a baler, he's trying to screw you.

It's not likely to "wholesale" for $500.

2addy · Sep 17, 2016

I'm guessing it won't wholesale for $500 as well but they're not going to sell it to me at wholesale price either, hence my thought of under $1000. They have a Hesston 1120 from the same lot that is market priced (via Tractorhouse) so I think it's market knowledge on their part. This dealership doesn't do a lot in hay; it's a row crop market and usually I have to go to Missouri to find anything. I can haggle on the price; I'm more concerned about whether the baler can do what I want it to do.

leeave96 · Sep 18, 2016

I don't think that's a deal. The 67 is essentially the same baler as the 68, except for shorter tongue length and bushings vs bearings in the wheels/spindles.

I paid $550 for my NH68 and dumped another $1,000 into it, including new tires and aftermarket needles. It is now a good baler - at a $1,550-ish investment.

Offer him $500 and you want to see it run, make and tie a bale or two or three.

Good luck,
Bill

RickB · Sep 18, 2016

If you don't want major downtime, a 50 year old machine is a poor bet. At this point you probably have a good 7 months to find a suitable machine within your budget. You seem to be talking yourself into this deal, good luck. Just because the guy has a different machine at a somewhat legitimate price doesn't mean he isn't looking to dump this relic on you at a big profit. Is there a decent New Holland dealer nearby? You sure won't be going to a Deere dealer to buy NH parts off the shelf. Square baler brand choices need to be made with local parts & service concerns in mind. I'm a parts manager at a New Holland dealership with a fair number of older and newer NH square balers in my trade area and I keep a decent supply of parts. I can't think of a single customer buying parts for a 67.

Notice too that you aren't getting overrun with replies from Model 67 owners.

2addy · Sep 18, 2016

That's mostly what I needed to know. We have a good NH dealer nearby and he has parts but it's an old machine. They fixed the knotter but I know they had issues. My only thought was if it I got it cheap and ran for a few seasons, I would make money off of it. But, that doesn't seem likely. My other choice right now is a JD 336 that just got overhauled but for a lot more money....

I appreciate the input.

ronchp · Sep 18, 2016

Guess I would not want to go over $500 or so for this era baler either, but with a little care could work out for you. Before I would be interested I would check the chains to see if they are in okay shape and lubed-all one piece or lots of repair links? Roll it over by hand to see if there is anything that sounds like rubbing metal. Trip the knotters and check that everything moves as it should. Check oil in gearboxes. Bale chamber not rusted out? Plunger adjustment bolts not rusted too badly? U-joints on drive don't have a lot of wear. If everything else looks okay, then ask them to hook it up to a tractor and have it make a couple of bales, even if you have to take a couple bales to them to cycle through the machine.

2addy · Sep 18, 2016

Thank you. I'm going to look at it this week so that gives me some insight. If it's junk, I'll obviously pass.

leeave96 · Sep 19, 2016

2addy said:
That's mostly what I needed to know. We have a good NH dealer nearby and he has parts but it's an old machine. They fixed the knotter but I know they had issues. My only thought was if it I got it cheap and ran for a few seasons, I would make money off of it. But, that doesn't seem likely. My other choice right now is a JD 336 that just got overhauled but for a lot more money....

I appreciate the input.

Not sure what a lot more money is - but IMHO he 336 is a terrific baler. If it is truely in good, field ready shape, you will not regret buying that model baler.