New Holland 848 Baler Guidance

   / New Holland 848 Baler Guidance #1  

juredd1

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First time posting here but have been a member for a little over a year. I am new to all of this haying stuff so I have just been reading for knowledge. Purchased a 848 a few weeks back for personal use (Not for profit) and ran it for the fast time last week on a small spot of land with no issues. I moved to my main hay field Monday of this week (around 10 acres) and it did fine but was able to watch it more closely and found a couple bearings that were completely wore out. One in one of the idler wheels and the other on the non gear side of the rubber roller. I have those areas tore down and the parts in hand from the New Holland dealer and hope to put together tomorrow morning. I said all of that to just give you some recent history. I did not get an owners manual when I first got it and the guy said they baled with it last year (local guy so didn't really question him) so I didn't really consider needing to adjust anything. Then we talked later when I purchased an old side delivery rake he had and he said hey I have that owners manual for the baler.

I work about 3 hours drive from my home a couple days a week so I took it to read at night in my motel but forgot it at the office and then again forgot it when I came home last night. So to the main point for this post. I don't have time to make the 6 hour round trip to get the manual and don't have time to get one ordered and mailed to me before tomorrow when I need to use it again. My uncle has his hay down already so I am in a tight spot. Just looking for some general guidance on the most important things to look at for on this guy. I have read post on different pressure amounts for the airbags but thought I read in the manual about the higher you go the tighter the bales. 25 min and 40 max or something like that.

The biggest problem I am having problems with is the tying of the bale at this point. I know it really don't tie but that is what i call it. I also seem to loose a pretty good amount of hay out the bottom during the tying process but I did have some short hay in mine so that may be normal. Well it falls out after opening the door to roll the bale out.

Just an pointers that might save me having any big problems tomorrow. Airbag, greasing, and the chain oil tanks are the most obvious ones.

Thanks for you time.

Justin
 
   / New Holland 848 Baler Guidance #2  
First time posting here but have been a member for a little over a year. I am new to all of this haying stuff so I have just been reading for knowledge. Purchased a 848 a few weeks back for personal use (Not for profit) and ran it for the fast time last week on a small spot of land with no issues. I moved to my main hay field Monday of this week (around 10 acres) and it did fine but was able to watch it more closely and found a couple bearings that were completely wore out. One in one of the idler wheels and the other on the non gear side of the rubber roller. I have those areas tore down and the parts in hand from the New Holland dealer and hope to put together tomorrow morning. I said all of that to just give you some recent history. I did not get an owners manual when I first got it and the guy said they baled with it last year (local guy so didn't really question him) so I didn't really consider needing to adjust anything. Then we talked later when I purchased an old side delivery rake he had and he said hey I have that owners manual for the baler.

I work about 3 hours drive from my home a couple days a week so I took it to read at night in my motel but forgot it at the office and then again forgot it when I came home last night. So to the main point for this post. I don't have time to make the 6 hour round trip to get the manual and don't have time to get one ordered and mailed to me before tomorrow when I need to use it again. My uncle has his hay down already so I am in a tight spot. Just looking for some general guidance on the most important things to look at for on this guy. I have read post on different pressure amounts for the airbags but thought I read in the manual about the higher you go the tighter the bales. 25 min and 40 max or something like that.

The biggest problem I am having problems with is the tying of the bale at this point. I know it really don't tie but that is what i call it. I also seem to loose a pretty good amount of hay out the bottom during the tying process but I did have some short hay in mine so that may be normal. Well it falls out after opening the door to roll the bale out.

Just an pointers that might save me having any big problems tomorrow. Airbag, greasing, and the chain oil tanks are the most obvious ones.

Thanks for you time.

Justin

As for the hay falling through the floor chains and out the back when dumping a bale.....Sounds to me like the hay is too dry to bale or running too many RPM's and/or not enough ground speed. Ken Sweet
 
   / New Holland 848 Baler Guidance
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#3  
Thanks for the reply and sorry for the long delay. Been in the hay fields for a few days. Well it could be that my hay was too dry on my field but baled one yesterday that when we got there around 9:30am it was still to a little green, not wet from dew but not dried out. We came back about 2:30pm and it looked good. I still had the problem so I don't think it was too dry and I am running it a hair under 540 rpm so the that shouldn't be a problem or I don't think it should be. I appreciate the input.

Justin
 
   / New Holland 848 Baler Guidance #4  
Thanks for the reply and sorry for the long delay. Been in the hay fields for a few days. Well it could be that my hay was too dry on my field but baled one yesterday that when we got there around 9:30am it was still to a little green, not wet from dew but not dried out. We came back about 2:30pm and it looked good. I still had the problem so I don't think it was too dry and I am running it a hair under 540 rpm so the that shouldn't be a problem or I don't think it should be. I appreciate the input.

Justin

We have a 8 speed tractor and round bale in low 4 or high 1. What you look for to check if it too dry is the "order" or moisture of the leaves. They should not crumble to the touch, Especially alfalfa. Chain rollers are normally rougher on hay than belt rollers. Ken Sweet
 
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#5  
Thanks again for you input.

Justin
 
   / New Holland 848 Baler Guidance #6  
We have just bought an old 848, S/N 829783 Ford New Holland bailer and can't find an operators manual, do you know where we can buy one? Is there more than one type of 848 bailer? Ours has steel bars not belts, seems to be in good shape, chains need a few links removed, quite a bit of slack, we know nothing about this type of bailer, always used square bailers in the past. Any advice, links will be appreciated.

God bless
Jim
 
   / New Holland 848 Baler Guidance #7  
chain / bar tension is on either side of the machine ( inflate air bags to 25-40 PSI ) ... just above head height, look forward from the rear where the bailer opens on the driver's side .... bail size is adjusted on passenger side ( if it was a car ) under the side flap ... look for 2 flat pieces of metal at the bottom corners of the flap , they have round holes in them ... lift them up and twist to slide thru the slot... lift panel and use the top twist lock to hole it up .... chain oil goes in the 2 rear containers ... ( drips into the 2 small funnels under the supply hoses )....

do you have the narrow or wide ( extra side augers ) pickup ?
 
   / New Holland 848 Baler Guidance #8  
Our bailer has side augers, we don't know anything about this bailer, help on tying, adjusting the cutters, or tying mechanism, we see a gear drive on the tying mechanism, adjustments? Some chains see over slack, we thought we should remove at least one link? There is a huge control box for in the cab, we don't know that the settings are for, simple explanation would be helpful.

Thanks for any help.
God bless
Jim
 
   / New Holland 848 Baler Guidance #9  
do NOT remove any chain links ... they space the bars equally to go around the center hubs ( big 4 spoke units ) ... chains tighten up when you close the unit and the air bags on each side are at 35-40 PSI (some units have individual bags and some have then tied together with a hose )

the bale size is adjusted ( depending on unit SN ) on the right side of the unit ( looking forward from the rear ) ...

twine is in the 2 front holders ( always keep 2 rolls in each side )

control box in cab tells you when the unit is full / to stop / and let the unit wrap and dump .....

some units have a reverser to aid in the ejection ... ( rolls the chains/bars backwards)
 
   / New Holland 848 Baler Guidance #10  
Thanks for your help, the chains I was referring to are the small chains (#60), the adjusters were at the extreme and the chain had about 3" of slack, one other thing is the amperage to run the wrapping twine control motor, I have to run a power cable and want to fuse it, do you know the amperage draw? I was planning on using a 15A fuse.

Thanks
God bless
Jim
 

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