New Holland 4835 remotes

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swampinboy711

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Hello all I’m new here and was looking for some info or ideas, I have the factory loader and it is plumbed into the two rear remotes witch makes it a pain when I want to run my haybine or baler. I was wondering if anyone has ever relocated the loader controls to a center mount or added a 3rd remote? Any and all info would be great

Info I have
4835
Two remotes both used for loader
Cable controls for loader
7310 loader
 

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   / New Holland 4835 remotes #2  
Hello all I’m new here and was looking for some info or ideas, I have the factory loader and it is plumbed into the two rear remotes witch makes it a pain when I want to run my haybine or baler. I was wondering if anyone has ever relocated the loader controls to a center mount or added a 3rd remote? Any and all info would be great

Info I have
4835
Two remotes both used for loader
Cable controls for loader
7310 loader

There seems to be an option for a mid mount hydraulic remote in the parts list at Messicks. Might be worthwhile giving them a call.

 
   / New Holland 4835 remotes #3  
It might be an option, yes, but a mighty expensive one. It may include all the factory steel lines, banjo bolts, joystick, cables, brackets for same, along with a sizable price tag.

It wouldn't be the direction I would take, but it's your choice. Once you get the word on price and availability on all that, you might do a little searching for some aftermarket cable controlled loader valve packages and consider that option as well. You're going to in for a project either way.
 
   / New Holland 4835 remotes #4  
If you use the link to get to the NH parts website then search for the 7310 loader you will find several valving options including a midmount valve option. And one of the breakdowns shows the power beyond line and location which is going to be the hardest place to find. Once you find the power beyond line and can figure out the threads then any two spool valve can be added into the system.
 
   / New Holland 4835 remotes #5  
> the factory loader and it is plumbed into the two rear remotes

the rear remotes are driving the front loader? As in the tractor doesn't have a dedicated FEL valve? Sorry, must be missing something, or just haven't seen that config before. If the tractor came with a FEL, i'd expect you have an FEL valve (the joystick) next to your seat?

The fluid flow on most small tractors is:
  1. pump
  2. pressure relief valve (usually built-into the FEL valve)
    1. dumps to tank if opened
  3. FEL valve
    1. dumps cylinder exhaust to tank when opened/actuated, else fluid continues flowing
  4. [optionally] factory rear remotes. Or, similiarly here is where you'd splice into, in series, the power beyond flow.
  5. 3 point hitch valve
    1. if you have both this and the FEL valve (in an open-center system) .... you know your FEL valve does already have "power beyond", which is what you need

it's relatively easy to add new rear-remotes as long as you're talking about standard "tandem center" with return-to-tank valves. Your tractor is open center (New Holland 4835 Tractor Specifications),

if you're not worried about aesthetics (for instance, just clamp the valves to the ROPS), you buy a new valve ("tandem center"; if adding > one, the valves are likely in series), and you add this new setup in series with your current line. This is called you "power beyond" flow. Here's an example: Electric Rear Remote Valve Kit for Compact Tractors

you might need a factory option to enable the "power beyond" line - for many monoblock type valves this is just a sleeve that inserts into the manifold, allowing what was run to tank/atmosphere to now carry the full pump pressure after it passes though that (existing valve) "unused"
 
   / New Holland 4835 remotes #6  
If you don't already have one, buy a beam torque wrench Amazon.com : beam torque wrench ~ $30 ... unlike all other styles, these are " calibration free" as long as you don't drop/damage it, how much the needle moves is simple deflection of the steel beam. They are not the most accurate - but that's fine; these parts obviously have a wide tolerance; but using a torque wrench will ensure you don't drastically under or over tighten - both could be big problems.

regarding how to use - the "right" way would be to spend another 50-100$ on a set of crowfoot wrenches. BUT you can also easily jury-rig something for a one off. Just make sure the bolt/fitting you're tightening is exactly 90degrees from the head of the wrench (and that you only apply rotation to the fitting / jig with the torque wrench), and the measurement will be accurate no matter how long that is offset (shorter the better - easier to keep your other forces minimal)

as for how tight - you should be able to find this info easily on line. If not, find a connector of the same material (eg zinc platted steel, most likely) and thread + size on either mcmaster or bailey's, and just call them asking for install torque if it's not listed.
 
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Hey sorry guys been crazy busy at work, when I say factory loader I guess I ment that it is a new Holland loader that has cable that run to the rear remotes from the FEL joy stick, if at all possible I’d like to have a mid mount with no cables then possibly swap my rear remotes to just a handle down by the seat, after reading some of the comments I’ve got some ideas my only problem is I don’t understand the hydraulic system enough to just start adding in new valves but I am not against the idea of just mounting a 3rd remote to the ROP
 

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