New Boomer Series Tires

[eagle107]

FYI - It looks like NH has changed the tires back to the traditional Titan tires. I heard there might have been issues with the old tires not being sized right or implements hitting against those tires. Maybe it was not "hear say" after all. If you are looking to purchase new Boomer series tractor, you might want to make sure you get the new tires on the tractor. They seem to be a lot nicer than the original tires. That was a good move by NH.

However, I noticed that the new tractors have six lugs connecting the tires to the rear housing instead of the standard eight lugs on the older tractors. Does anyone know if it is better to have eight lugs instead of six lugs? I know John Deere said something about this a while back why eight lugs were a little better than six lugs, but I cannot remember what it was.

The first picture shows the old tires and the second picture shows the new tires.

 

[whodat526]

the titan tires have always been a good tire

 

[eagle107]

FYI - It looks like NH has changed the tires back to the traditional Titan tires. I heard there might have been issues with the old tires not being sized right or implements hitting against those tires. Maybe it was not "hear say" after all. If you are looking to purchase new Boomer series tractor, you might want to make sure you get the new tires on the tractor. They seem to be a lot nicer than the original tires. That was a good move by NH.

Actually, it was an issue with the mid-mount mower, not the 3PH implements. But I do like those tires; it gives the tractor more character.

 

[jinman]

If you look at that rear wheel, you can also see where NH has "cheaped out" with the LS models. The rear tire is no longer adjustable like the older Shibaura Boomers (see attachment). Some people will look you straight in the eyes and tell you the new LS tractors are as good as the Shibauras, but I ain't buyin' it.:thumbdown:

EDIT: The new LS models don't seem to have any way to mount wheel weights either. I'm gonna quit lookin' because this is depressing. . . sigh!

 

[BigBoyinMS]

If you look at that rear wheel, you can also see where NH has "cheaped out" with the LS models. The rear tire is no longer adjustable like the older Shibaura Boomers (see attachment). Some people will look you straight in the eyes and tell you the new LS tractors are as good as the Shibauras, but I ain't buyin' it.:thumbdown:

EDIT: The new LS models don't seem to have any way to mount wheel weights either. I'm gonna quit lookin' because this is depressing. . . sigh!

If by "cheaped out" you mean "less bells and whistles" I would agree. NH probably is trying to keep from raising prices so they are sourcing a tractor that is more basic and less expensive for them to buy. LS is a quality tractor so the buyer isn't getting any less quality, just less of the "options". If a buyer needs wheel weights or adjustable wheels then I'm sure the wheels can be changed out and if not then there are other brands that will suit their needs.

 

[sweep]

If by "cheaped out" you mean "less bells and whistles" I would agree. NH probably is trying to keep from raising prices so they are sourcing a tractor that is more basic and less expensive for them to buy. LS is a quality tractor so the buyer isn't getting any less quality, just less of the "options". If a buyer needs wheel weights or adjustable wheels then I'm sure the wheels can be changed out and if not then there are other brands that will suit their needs.

That is how I take it. A no frills tractor to get you from point A to point B. How many of us actually adjust out tractor tires multiple times? Mine were done at the dealer when new and they will never be adjusted ever again.

That is how I would like to buy a new car. I don't need power seats or power mirrors etc. I'm the only one that drives my car.

I would bet adjustable rims are available.

 

[jinman]

Tractors don't come with bells and whistles, that's a train.:laughing: Tractors do come with adjustable wheels and wheels that are wheel weight ready. Perhaps you guys would be okay with them cutting 5 hp in the name of economy also. The Boomer is a deluxe model tractor. New Holland makes economy tractors and if that's what people want, that's what they should buy. Yes, I believe this is "cheaping out" by NH. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

 

[RickB]

Tractors don't come with bells and whistles, that's a train.:laughing: Tractors do come with adjustable wheels and wheels that are wheel weight ready. Perhaps you guys would be okay with them cutting 5 hp in the name of economy also. The Boomer is a deluxe model tractor. New Holland makes economy tractors and if that's what people want, that's what they should buy. Yes, I believe this is "cheaping out" by NH. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

Agreed. No cab option after being 10 years behind the industry to get a cabbed CUT in the lineup. No hydraulic shuttle after having a 2120 HSS/EHSS and TC55DA for more than 20 years. Steering cylinders in front of the axle where they WILL get whacked more often. All the ergonomics and comforts of a milk crate. The LS and Workmaster offerings are a joke. Nobody that owns a Shibaura-built NH wants to even look at trading to a new NH.

I hope the bean counters are happy.

 

[eagle107]

Agreed. No cab option after being 10 years behind the industry to get a cabbed CUT in the lineup. No hydraulic shuttle after having a 2120 HSS/EHSS and TC55DA for more than 20 years. Steering cylinders in front of the axle where they WILL get whacked more often. All the ergonomics and comforts of a milk crate. The LS and Workmaster offerings are a joke. Nobody that owns a Shibaura-built NH wants to even look at trading to a new NH.

I hope the bean counters are happy.

I was wondering why the steering cylinders/linkages are in the front. The American/American based model tractors like JD, older series NH Boomers/Case Farmalls and Masseys still keep the cylinders behind the wheels which makes sense. I see Kubota, Kioti, LS, new NH boomers and etc. put the linkages in front of the axle. Now some tractors have guards on them such as Kubota and Kioti, but still if you hit a stump by accident, would that not crush the cylinder/linkages? Also you have the added wear and tear with brush hitting against them like RickB stated. Is there any advantage to having these cylinders/linkages in the front instead of the back that I am not seeing or it is more of a patent issue?

 

[Hematite]

Agreed. No cab option after being 10 years behind the industry to get a cabbed CUT in the lineup. No hydraulic shuttle after having a 2120 HSS/EHSS and TC55DA for more than 20 years. Steering cylinders in front of the axle where they WILL get whacked more often. All the ergonomics and comforts of a milk crate. The LS and Workmaster offerings are a joke. Nobody that owns a Shibaura-built NH wants to even look at trading to a new NH.

I hope the bean counters are happy.

Quite true!