Need some B Allis experts.

Nat · Dec 20, 2006

I brought and old B Allis home today and it is pretty unusual. It has 3 piece cultivators, not like the 1 piece that is all I've ever seen on a B, and it has seperate front and rear lift simular to a super A Farmal. It also has a snap coupler on the rear that raises and lowere the rear toolbar. Did Allis make any other snap couple hitch equipment for a B? Don't confuse this with the snap coupler that is on a CA, or a WD 45 or the newer D- series. This is a B, and it is origonal, so any help will be appreciated. Later, Nat

Tanberry · Dec 20, 2006

AC made a complete line of implements for the Modle B , if AC didnt make it other suppliers did . They made over 100K modle B's so you should be able to find any thing you need .

Nat · Dec 20, 2006

Matt this one will be a little more difficult as it has the snap coupler hitch system. All the snap coupler hitch equipment I've ever seen is for bigger tractors. The smallest snap coupler equipment I've seen is for a D-10 which pulled 2- 12" plows and would carry a 20 disc harrow and it is a bigger, heavier tractor than a B. Thanks, Nat

Tanberry · Dec 21, 2006

Nat said:
has the snap coupler hitch system. All the snap coupler hitch equipment I've ever seen is for bigger tractors.

I was raised on a B , I have a CA now but I really liked my B . After about 1943 you could retrofit the B with the Snap Coupler from a CA and use CA attachments . I had a 1 bottem 16" plow with my B but most of the attachments were mounted on the cultervator frame. We once were abe to find alot of the snap coupler equipment for the B in this area but the scrap metal prices have cleaned alot of them out of the fence rows . I still have the two row planter for mine but it's in bad shape .

Nat · Dec 21, 2006

Matt, I took some pics of it today. It seems this particular B came from the plant with the snap coupler. The bell mounted like a drawbar on the front of the final drivers.
I don't have the bell, but it still has the latches. This one is pretty neat, or will be when it's done.
#1 this pic shows how the front lift mounts
#2 shows the snap latches and the homemade 3PH that sticks 3' behind the tractor
#3 shows the selector valve to choose front or rear

Nat · Dec 21, 2006

Here is one side of the front cultivators. The pin sticking out goes into a hole on the front radiator support and it has 2 slotted holes that fit onto the boss on the torque tube.
The second pic shows the way the rear toolbar mounts on the latches

Tanberry · Dec 21, 2006

Nice tractor ! that one looks to be in good shap for a restore . It looks like it mostly complete , you can yous a few parts from a CA or C such as the round door to the toolbox that is missing . It looks like you have the quick hitch cultevator . Does it have the ajustable frount axle if it does then its probably a 1945 or newer ? I'll try and dig up a picture of my CA after I restored it. These were built to last , good luck with the restore

Nat · Dec 21, 2006

Matt, it does have the wide adjustable front axle and the cast,dish rear wheels. It also has wheel weights inside the rears.
You're right on needing the toolbox cover, and I'll need a grill screen, and the snap coupler bell but other than that it is complete. The engine was pro rebuilt by the fellow I got it from, but the owner installed it and didn't get the firing order right so he couldn't get it started. I put the plug wires on the right plugs and charged the batt and she fired right up, good oil pressure and runs like a kitten. The rear tires don't match, so I'll have to buy one tire as it has 1 new 23 degree firestone and 1 worn Silverton. The wheels are all nice, no rust spots, all in all I'm happy so far. Later, Nat

Tanberry · Dec 22, 2006

Here a picture of my CA . I restored it severl years back but it has always been a working tractor , this one was made in 1952 and I use it to mow hay , pullt hay wagons and brush hog feilds . I didn't notice in your pictires if the the belt pulley on the back was still there .

scott_vt · Dec 22, 2006

Mornin Nat,
Did you finish the other B you were working on ? Or did I miss it !

Nat · Dec 22, 2006

Scott, it is finished and also has another home. I couldn't decide wheater to keep my old C Farmall or the B-AC so I set them both out at the road for sale and the first guy to come by bought the B. I wasn't going to start another one for a while, but I found this old B, and since it was different I bought it anyway.
Here is the one I just finished, and the 2nd pic is of the 3PH
Later, Nat

Nat · Dec 22, 2006

Matt, that is a sharp CA. Does it have the snap coupler 3PH adapter or did someone convert it to 3PH? How is 3rd gear, and does the hand clutch work?
A man down the road has a CA that farmed the land I own and has had it since new. I tried to buy it , I told him I would restore it and keep it since it has a history here. I have first dibbs on it. It is all origional with the factory 2 row cvultivators, 2 bottom snap plow and 20 disc snap harrow snap coupler bush-hog and a trip bucket front end loader. It has been in a shed all it's life and is still a good sound solid tractor. You don't see many that have the origional equipment still with it. I drool over it every time I go by there, and" wonders never cease" my wife wants it here. Later, Nat

scott_vt · Dec 22, 2006

Good Evening Nat,
Thanks for the pics ! Very nice !

There is a guy listing a Allis Chalmers B a few towns away from me for $900, Im almost tempted to go look

Tanberry · Dec 22, 2006

Nat said:
Matt, . Does it have the snap coupler 3PH adapter or did someone convert it to 3PH? How is 3rd gear, and does the hand clutch work?

It has the snap coupler set up but I converted it to 3ph so I could pull a finish mower , I kept all the parts so I can always convert it back. The CA is a 4 speed , 3rd gear is nice and I can mow in third although its a little wild if you have to go around a lot of trees. 4th gear can get you up to about 12mph on the road . I had to replace the hand clutch once for 800 dollars but it is great for rakeing because you can clutch with it and keep the PTO runnig when you get to the end of the row , it basically disingages the right axle. Moist of the CA's can with one rear remote . I'd get that CA when you can . Does your B have the 10X24 rear weels ?

Nat · Dec 22, 2006

Matt, mine does have the 10-24 rears with the 5 bolt pattern cast wheels. They have weights bolted to the inside that I didn't even see when I bought it.
I'll certainly by that CA as soon as it's for sale, you dont see many like that anymore. Later, Nat

dillo99 · Jan 7, 2007

Tanberry said:
Here a picture of my CA . I restored it severl years back but it has always been a working tractor , this one was made in 1952 and I use it to mow hay , pullt hay wagons and brush hog feilds . I didn't notice in your pictires if the the belt pulley on the back was still there .

That's a nice tractor Matt. My grandfather used to own a couple of those (Dairy Farmer) and I remember riding next to him on the fender for hours at a time. Probably not the safest thing in the world, but it sure brings back memories. I would love to buy a tractor like that someday to restore. A few years ago there was a barn fire at my grandfathers farm (now owned by my uncle). After that they sold off everything and got out of the business - included several old AC's. I wish I had thought to buy one from my uncle back then. Oh well! Someday when the wife lets me go for Tractor #2!