My homemade TopNTilt/4th&5th control valve

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liledoun

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Location
Northwest Piedmont North Carolina
Tractor
JD 4300
I had the third valve already installed on my JD 4300 for a 4 in 1 bucket and it provided rear hydraulic outlets. I thought that that the rear outlets could be used for a T-N-T operation so I first got a top cylinder from Green Manufacturing. I added a couple bushings and some hoses and it worked great.

I then ordered a cylinder from Prince (Surplus store) Model SAE 8404 for $35.00. I took that cylinder and removed the rod clevis and made an adapter by welding a 1" nut to some flat steel and bent it to fit. The other end I made a pin and swivel out of some 3/4" ID thick wall pipe I had. I welded two pieces together at 90 deg. I did not want to cut or weld on the cylinder itself until I knew it would work. I added hoses and fitting it worked great. I left the adjustable link on the tractor to give a extra tilt if needed but I still have the same adjustment as before with the cylinder. It works great for about $65.00

After all this I decided that since I had only one control outlet at the back and the Top link worked fine and the Tilt worked fine, but I had to switch lines to use the one I wanted. I looked at Princedirect and found a "loader valve with joystick" for $140.00. I could use it but I needed a "Power Beyond Kit" on the tractor to get it to work right and give me the extra outlets I wanted. I ordered PB via "jdparts.com" and installed it myself. Not really hard since most of the brackets, etc. were installed with the third valve. Just a couple pipes and some fittings.

I made a bracket for the valve to mount to the existing holes on the ROPS and did the plumbing for a Pressure in, Tank, and Power Beyond from the valve. I made another plate to hold the connectors for the outlets from the valve. This gave me two extra hydraulic controls at the back of the tractor plus the Power beyond allowed the use of the rockshaft. The whole thing was done without any new holes having to be drilled in the tractor, and no functions disabled. I addition the entire valve and extra outlets are easily removable in about five minutes.
I like it better and it cost a lot less than the JD system. Check out the pictures.

My next project is a power angle on my back blade.

PHOTOS are posted at: CLICK HERE

JRF
 

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   / My homemade TopNTilt/4th&5th control valve #2  
Nice job. I really want a TNT for my 4310 for box blade work but JD's price has put me off. If you had to choose only one function, would you want the top or tilt cyliner?
 
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Liledoun:

Now that is sweet, looks good too. Looked at your pic site that you have postes all the pic's on, very nice.

Whiskey
 
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Looks nice. I already have a remote quick connect for my backhoe.

No what to do. I can only pick one until another quick connect or valve is installed. Which is more beneficial, the top link, tilt or rotating the rear blade? The top link would be easiest to do.

My L3130 has 3 small levers. One goes to the quick connect for the backhoe. The other two are not used. I have not looked at these, is there a valve already there? Can I just take out a plug and plumb it?
 
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JRF,

Looks nice !!! Did you order the top tilt cylinder direct from Green. Can I ask how much ??
 
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<font color="blue">"...If you had to choose only one function, would you want the top or tilt cyliner?"</font>

I have a TnT on my JD 4710. I've found the top function, so far, to be much more useful. It's come in quite handy in optimally adjusting the pitch on my back blade when using it for different desired applications.

...Bob
 
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I got Green's hydraulic top link (it's category II, so you need 1" to 3/4" bushings at both ends) for $90 plus an additional $9 shipping. It came in 3 days. Send them an email stating you'd like a Category I top link - I think they might be close to producing them if enough people ask.
 
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I was kinda leaning the top link direction myself.

btw....Disregard my previous statement about the 3 levers. Appearently CRS is acting up today. There are 3 slots but just the one lever. Thought it sounded to good when I posted it...DOhhh!!!
 
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Ctyler,

Now that you know you have only one lever, I think this is an improvement with the new -30 series from Kubota. With the -10s, you had to completely replace 1 with 2 or 2 with 3 if you wanted to increase the # of outlets. As in, $600 for 1, but had to be thrown away when you wanted 2. $1,000 for 2, but throw away if wanted 3, and $1497 for 3. The -30s I think use an expandable system, just pay for more blocks and move the endplate. At least that is my interpretation. And it could be WAY off.

I really want the remotes for my forklift, but can't afford the $1497, and if I do it, I am going all out at once. And I am a little bitter with Kubota over this design and the price. It's just valve bodies, they are not complicated items.

Nick
 
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I talked to the dealer a little while ago and they are expandable. With the valve, hoses, and quick connects it was about $500. He just gave me a ballpark figure.

Can you change your over to the newer style?
 

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