Mixing turfs and industrials

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hot110ff

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Stahlstown, Pa.
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John Deere 3720
Has anyone ever mixed the turfs and industrials? I traded my in 855 with turfs back in September for a new 3720 with industrials. The R-4s give me great traction but the smallish fronts are tearing the lawn up when making turns. I was thinking of running turfs in the front while keeping the R-4s in the rear. As long as I match the OD of the tires I cant see any problems here. Opinions?
 
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hot110ff said:
Has anyone ever mixed the turfs and industrials? I traded my in 855 with turfs back in September for a new 3720 with industrials. The R-4s give me great traction but the smallish fronts are tearing the lawn up when making turns. I was thinking of running turfs in the front while keeping the R-4s in the rear. As long as I match the OD of the tires I cant see any problems here. Opinions?


I run R-4's with no problems. Are you operating the tractor in MFWD while mowing? That would result in front wheel scuffing during turns. If you can operate in 2WD while mowing your lawn, I think you'd see the scuffing diminish.
Personally, I wouldn't mix R-4's and turfs. I'd sooner buy a spare set of wheels/tires.
Just my opinion...
 
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Hi:

I've asked my dealer about doing the same thing and he has several folks that do that. He didn't see an issue as long as the OD's were kept the same. My 2305 doesn't cut bad (in 2wd) unless the soil is very wet and soft and I turn very hard.

My 3320 however even on good dry tough soil will if I turn very hard (and the tires tilt putting weight on the lugs) will leave small tears. I can avoid this if I turn more gradually or go very, very slow while turning. I've been thinking of throwing a set of the golf (special turf) tires on the front. I may try it this spring if I can get some the same OD as the larger R4's

The rears (Large R4's loaded with 900lbs of liquid weight) don't dig in at all unless the soil is wet, then the'll leave a small impression (on the grass) that goes away in a day or two.

On the 2305 I might end up getting a spare set of rims and tires if it bothers me enough (hasn't yet in 100 hours) but that's not an option for the 3320 as I don't want to be swapping the huge loaded tires on the 3320 without a crane, dolly, or 4 people to help me. ;) Also, a spare set of tires and rims for the 3320 is pretty expensive.
 
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The reason I was thinking of putting turfs on the front is that I have some soft spots on the side of the house and I work long hours during the week so when I have some seat time I need to make the most of it and do my cutting at a pretty good ground speed. Doing that tears up the yard.
 
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Hello

I wouldn't do it. If you don't hit the OD perfectly you will get gear wrap in 4wd. This will get very expensive to repair if something breaks do to the load on the drive line. It would be cheaper to have a set of turfs all the way around. Call your dealer and ask what it would cost to split your tractor to replace the mfwd shift collar, you might be suprized at the cost.
 
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GATOR445 said:
Hello

I wouldn't do it. If you don't hit the OD perfectly you will get gear wrap in 4wd. This will get very expensive to repair if something breaks do to the load on the drive line. It would be cheaper to have a set of turfs all the way around. Call your dealer and ask what it would cost to split your tractor to replace the mfwd shift collar, you might be suprized at the cost.

I would have to say this would only happen on hard surfaces. By this statement as evidenced on my Jeep on which I can lock the differentials at any time, and I mean lock and to turn into a spool, I have had no problems as I was on surfaces that allowed the wheels to slip. With the front axle locked I pretty much had trouble turning, but so far nothing has been broken. I don't think there is a locker on the front diff on these tractors but I could be wrong and will defer to better knowable members. As long as there is a possibility of wheel slip you should be okay. Again if you run it for long term on hard surfaces you may have a problem with binding, but as long as the wheels can slip then you should be okay
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Mine was like this when I got it 2 years ago.
 

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GATOR445 said:
Hello

I wouldn't do it. If you don't hit the OD perfectly you will get gear wrap in 4wd.
Hard Surfaces and in 4WD. As long as you don't miss by a whole lot, you should be fine. You actually end up with mis-matched OD's just due to normal tire wear. If these machines can't handle that, then we all spent a whole lotta money for no good reason.

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