MIGs: Hobart Handler 140 vs. Longevity MIGWELD 140

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Any thoughts on these two? I tried the Hobart and it will work great for my needs -- don't think I need anything bigger or badder. The Longevity is similar with decent reviews, but is about $140 cheaper and has the option for a spool gun if I ever want to weld aluminum (unknown at this time).

The smaller Hobart Handler 125 is also on my list, but only $20 less than the Longevity 140.

Thoughts?
 
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Go Hobart 210 MVP. It is dual voltage so you have all the portability of the Hobart 140 on 115 volt and serious power on 230 volt when needed (most people prefer 230 volt when it comes to any welder). Spool gun compatible too if you want to do aluminum later. A welder that the homeowner is simply likely not to outgrow.

I hear the Hobart 140 is a fine unit but I have not run one myself. That said I do have a Lincoln SP-135P 115 volt mig unit. In their day the Lincoln SP-135P were generally considered the cream of the crop amongst 115 volt mig units. It is a fine unit but it is limited. Any 115 volt Mig unit is pretty much limited to 1/8" thick and thinner from a practical perspective. Thicker metal requires 230 volt power. If I could recoup what I have invested my Lincoln SP-135P then I would buy a Hobart 210MVP tomorrow.

If you breaking this down to the $20 analysis level then a mig unit may not be for you. Still have to buy a gas bottle, buy gas, liners and tips add up over time. You can run flux core to save on the gas bottle but it is dirty and smokey and flux core does not excel on really thin metal like a mig unit will. Stick welding is cheaper to get into but stick welding does not do well on really thin metal, thin metal is where a mig comes in handy.
 
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$ 350 plus the possibility of shipping for the Longevity 140

$ 490 with free shipping on the 140 Hobart

$ 700 plus possible shipping cost for the Everlast Power I-Mig 160 , which is a dual voltage machine .

$ 850 with free shipping for the 210 Hobart

From what I know about the Hobarts , they have a " Tap " setting for power / voltage knob . In other words , it goes from 1 to 2 to 3 , click , click , click , were as my older Lincoln SP135+ is the " C " model . C is for continuous , so I can go infinite from 0 to whatever the highest number is and any were in between , thus to fine tune . The Hobart 210 also has " Tap " setting's .

The Longevity appears to be the same as my Lincoln , infinite adjustment , not tap setting's .

The Everlast I-mig 160 ( dual voltage machine ) that also appears to be Infinite adjustment .


I really doubt I would like the " Tap " settings , When I used my Lincoln 135 , Many times my settings were between numbers , 3.25 or 3.75 , etc... . Thus even though I bought a Migweld 200S from Longevity , ( a 220/240 machine ) , I kept my little Lincoln for those times I may need to be remote with a generator .

Don't Kid Yourself though , I Do Know that I have welded 1/2" to 1/2" with that little Lincoln using .035 flux core and it stuck . Obviously at that High a setting , the Duty cycle is very limited , But that project was adding 1/2" x 3" x 10" strips to a Semi truck chain Hanger to adapt it to pre-drilled holes already in frame . Welded both sides without grinding or tapering the joints , maybe a total of 24" to 30" total of weld that took better than a day to complete , ( was in no hurry as it was summer time ) , But that Hanger had over 400 pounds of tire chains on it for over 6 years straight traveling up and down the !-5 interstate from Seattle to Los Angeles without a failure or a crack any were . I really doubt anymore shock could of been applied to those welds than was applied when I would hit a pothole on the Grapevine and the entire truck would shake .

My Choice would be either the Longevity 140 or upgrade to the Everlast I-Mig 160 dual voltage to avoid the " Tap " Settings . I only ran / run Flux core , thus although I have welded 20 gauge sheet with .030 flux core , it was more like tack , tack ,tack , then go back and tack , tack ,tack and keep repeating until entire area was welded . Even .030 on the minimum settings were it would still arc , was enough to burn through thus that was a real time burner .

No Pro Welder , Not even Close , Just a Self Taught Hack that has used a 110/120 machine .

Fred H.
 
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Plenty of taps on any of those Hobarts (and many newbies claim the taps are easier for them to use to boot) My Lincoln Sp-135P has continuous voltage on it and I do not find it all that big of an advantage at all. Continuous adjustment on the wire speed is a must though cause that's the big factor. All the mentioned machines in this thread have that. Only difference is the Hobart likely to still be working 10, 20, 30 years from now. Those others brands - Good Luck.

Yes, I have welded some thick stuff too with my Lincoln SP-135P. Beveling joints multi-passes. Yes it held, but the machine is simply not rated for those kinds of thicknesses.
 
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The only thing I do not like about my 140 is that it jams pretty easy if you are welding near the machine especially if there is a loop in the feed. The feed line has to be pretty straight with no loops and then there are no issues.
 
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Clint are you running mig mode or Flux Core? Flux core wire can be dirty and slippery depending on brand of wire. Knurled rollers supposedly help with flux core too (although I have not tried them yet). Whatever you do - do not run any Harbor Freight Flux core through your machine. I made that mistake once and it was instant liner replacement.

My Lincoln SP-135P will sometimes feed erratically with 0.030 flux core if lots of bends in the whip. I have thought of switching to .035 to see if it improves. If not then Knurled rollers will be next.
 
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The only thing I do not like about my 140 is that it jams pretty easy if you are welding near the machine especially if there is a loop in the feed. The feed line has to be pretty straight with no loops and then there are no issues.

Which 140 ?
 
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I upgraded a year ago from a Hobart 125ez to a 140. It's a good little welder as long as you stay inside the limits of the machine i.e.; duty cycle, thickness. The tapped power settings can be a pain, but I've found that adjusting the wire speed one way or the other helps a little in those 'in between' cases. Manual states it is spool gun capable as well. Down the road, I will certainly be looking at a larger 230v machine, but until this one fails me in a major way, It'll stay where it is.

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P.S. When I get a chance, I'll post a pic of a race car rollcage I welded with the Hobart 140 that survived a 3 barrel roll, twice end over end accident, landing on a concrete wall on the roof with no more than bent bars and the driver getting out and walking away. Makes you pucker in your pants to see someone take a ride like that with a cage you built...

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