Midwest and KIOTI

[dourobob]

Does anyone know if the deal between KIOTI and Midwest Equipment includes the Canadian based KIOTI dealers or is it limited to the USA? I am hoping it may be the best way for me to get a MidWest BB30-72 in East Central Ontario, Canada.

Thanks
bob

 

[Gary_in_Indiana]

I would think Jim Mc here would be able to answer that for you and even give you the name of your nearest dealer if it does. I'm sure you can send him a private message to find out. I hope this helps. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[dourobob]

Thanks Gary
Jim Sent me a private e-mail between the time I left the office and the time I got home.
Looks like the Canadian dealer can get the Midwest attachments and I have a couple of them on the search for their best pricing on a BB30-72.
BTW - I was really impressed with your posts about your BB20-60 and they sure helped push me toward getting the same fabrication quality.
Thanks again.
Bob

 

[Gary_in_Indiana]

Bob,

I'm glad I was able to help. The only thing I want to mention is that I'm not sure I got a 20 series piece of equipment. I seem to think mine is a 15 series.

The only reason I seem to remember that is that I recall buying what was described as a 'light duty' piece and thinking that as heavy as this thing was (both in terms of weight and assembly quality), I'd hate to try to even move anything they'd call a 'heavy duty' 30 series piece.

 

[HayDR]

Most equipment dealers when talking about 3 point implements express duty as HP goes; 60-80 Hp is Heavy Duty, 40-60HP is STD Duty and below 40Hp is light duty.

 

[BigDave]

Mark,

I'm thinking about getting a tiller & I have question. I see there are light, medium & heavy duty tillers with variuos horsepower ratings. Are these the minimum and maximum horse power recommended/required? If this is the case, what prevents a 30hp tractor that can pull a 6' medium duty tiller from pulling a 6' heavy duty tiller rated for 45hp?

Thanks,

 

[JimMc]

Yours is a 20 Gary /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif It has a clevis hitch instead of lift pins. The 20 and 30's do not use lift pins. Glad you like it.

 

[Bird]

Big Dave, there are actually two horsepower ratings to consider.

One is the minimum horsepower required (or recommended) to operate the implement. Now you might be able to use the implement with less horsepower (sure won't hurt the implement), but you might not like it because it may not perform up to your expectations.

The other is the gearbox horsepower rating and that is the maximum horsepower that the manufacturer says you can safely use without risking damage to the gearbox. Again, you may use the implement on a tractor with more horsepower and it should work well, but if you damage the gearbox and the manufacturer knows it was used with more horsepower, it may not be covered by the warranty.

 

[Gary_in_Indiana]

<font color="blue"> Yours is a 20, Gary. </font>

Thanks, Jim. I must've been thinking, "If this is a standard, I'd hate to see a heavy duty." /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[dourobob]

I was pretty sure Gary's was a 20 -

Now things are getting interesting in Ontario - I visited a KIOTI dealer today near Toronto and he says he will be happy to get me a BB30-72 for $895 Cdn - ($618 US). Now I expected to pay a little more that you fellas in the states because of shipping etc but the folks at http://www.kioti.com/kioti_implements/ have a BB30-72 advertised on their site for $429 US which works out to about $622 Cdn. They say they will provide a better price in a package deal. Also 19th VA from this board says he paid about $425 US for his BB30-72

The KIOTI dealer told me his list price on the BB30-72 is $618 US which makes it $895 Cdn. He has a shipment coming from KIOTI in the next day or so and could bring in a BB for me but I am now confused about a fair price.

He came down from $895Cdn ($618US) to $845 Cdn ($584 US) but it still sounds out of line to me, particularly when when shipping should not be a killer because he would be hauling it with a load of tractors from KIOTI.

Am I missing something obvious here. Is it just a coincidence that the $618US asking price he gave me may actually be the asking price in Canadian dollars.

Sure would appreciate any insights from the folks here - maybe there is a forest here that I am not seeing 'cause the trees are in the way.

Thanks
Bob

 

[19th_VA]

Just a guess but it sounds to me like the Kioti dealer is aligning the Midwest prices with other similar quality implement makers and in the process reaping a huge profit. I've always said Midwest not only makes great implements but they are a great value too. Get Carver and Carver to ship one to you, Bob. I bet you save $ and the assembly is pretty straightforward on a BB.

 

[g42guy]

Re: 20 or 15 series??

Hey Jim Mc.
For a BX2200 should I be looking for a 20 or a 15 box blade?????

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Bob. I tried the local Kioti's and got similar pricing as you. I think that Midwest is a little higher in Kioti orange, and as was said, the dealers want to make their part.

I talked to Carter in TN, they encourafed me to shop local, because of the freight expense. But even with it, I am coming out over the pricing/quality of local stuff.

 

[dourobob]

I checked a couple of freight costs from KY to Canada and was floored - the best price was $728US -YIKES. Now I know that is just for one unit and a dealer would get a break if they were bringing in a whole load. Jim MC @ MidWest also advised me that the customs paperwork is onerous and many dealers either just will NOT do it or they charge big bucks for it.

Now I am left with a decision about budget and quality and I have decided to go for the BB20-72 series from an Ontario supplier - after all I am not in the landscape business and certainly will not be using it 24/7 during the season. Other comments on this board have conviinced me that teh BB20 series should exceed my needs and expectations. Comparable sized units in thsi area (Bush Hog, Walco, LandPride) are all at least $100 more and don't appear to have anything more to offer in quality.

So, here's hoping all this "research" pays off. I hope to pick up the new unit in a week to 10 days.

Thanks to all of you who have commented.

Bob

 

[19th_VA]

Good luck, Bob. I guess you checked Carver? (not to be confused with Carter). They had particularly reasonable shipping prices, though I don't know about Canada.

 

[dourobob]

Yes Jonathan I did check with Steve at Carver's thanks, and it was that shipping across the border thing that presented the $$ problem and the paperwork burden.
Maybe I am just rationalizing now but I am confident that the 20 series will do everything I ask of it and I think going for the 30 series was part of the "If I can get the bigger, stronger, heavier one one within my budget ... well, why the heck not?"
As I said earlier the 20 series is still more metal for less money than anything else I could find within a reasonable drive.

Now I get to anticipate the arrival of my new tool (toy) in the next week or so.

Bob

 

[19th_VA]

I don't think you are rationalizing. There was one post not too long ago about a guy in a similar situation--wanted the 30 but could only get the 20. I believe he said something like, "I can't imagine needing anything heavier duty."