METRIC THREADS PITCH SIZE (inches)

[Kent B]

Forgive me it there is a previous discussion on this topic. Direct me likewise.

Why is there a measurement in inches (TPI) when describing metric threads?

I get confused. If it is a metric bolt such as M12x30mm why would the threads be measured in inches?

It just seems to be a conflict in data. Is is metric or standard? For crying out loud.

re: New Holland Ford 1710 ROPS base attachment.
The parts diagram says: N602229536 Bolt M12x30.

Thanks
Kent B.

 

[Kent B]

Forgive me it there is a previous discussion on this topic. Direct me likewise.

Why is there a measurement in inches (TPI) when describing metric threads?

I get confused. If it is a metric bolt such as M12x30mm why would the threads be measured in inches?

It just seems to be a conflict in data. Is is metric or standard? For crying out loud.

re: New Holland Ford 1710 ROPS base attachment.
The parts diagram says: N602229536 Bolt M12x30.

Thanks
Kent B.

USA & METRIC THREAD STANDARDS

Metric thread sizes are specified differently than USA thread sizes. USA sizes are specified using the nominal major diameter and the number of threads per inch. For example, a 3/8-16 (coarse) thread has a 3/8" nominal major diameter and 16 threads per inch, while a 3/8-24 (fine) thread has the same nominal major diameter and 24 threads per inch.

Metric thread callouts are fundamentally different because the thread pitch (distance between each thread, in mm) is specified instead of threads per inch or per mm. For example, an M10x1.5 (coarse) thread has a 1.5mm pitch, while an M10x1.25 (fine) thread has a 1.25mm pitch.

To simplify metric thread callouts, the international (ISO) standard for metric threads eliminates the pitch callout on coarse threads. For example, the thread "M10" automatically means a coarse pitch, while any added pitch callout, such as M10x1.25, specifies a non-coarse pitch. This method of designation has the major benefit that average citizens do not need to memorize pitches just to identify a coarse thread.

Virtually all thread standards across the world use the ISO designation convention, including the German DIN and Japanese JIS standards. All except the ANSI standard, which so far still asks for a pitch callout on coarse threads, despite the confusion that it causes.

Since Carr Lane does business all across the world, we follow the international (ISO) standard for metric thread callouts. Stating the pitch of a metric coarse thread would be incorrect and totally confusing everywhere else in the world. The following table shows the ANSI equivalent callout for each ISO thread size.

I think I found the answer to my question here.

 

[Timm250]

Forgive me it there is a previous discussion on this topic. Direct me likewise.

Why is there a measurement in inches (TPI) when describing metric threads?

I get confused. If it is a metric bolt such as M12x30mm why would the threads be measured in inches?

It just seems to be a conflict in data. Is is metric or standard? For crying out loud.

re: New Holland Ford 1710 ROPS base attachment.
The parts diagram says: N602229536 Bolt M12x30.

Thanks
Kent B.

The M12 x 30 is a coarse pitch (1.75) 12mm diameter x 30mm long.

 

[OldMcDonald]

Whitworth set the first "Standard" nearly two hundred years ago in the UK. It has become more complicated ever since, especially since metric became introduced into previously Imperial measurement countries. Metricity is not universal though, because water pipes are still measured in inches in the homelands of metric useage.

 

[Scooby074]

You answered it in your second post. M12 by itself indicates standard course thread. 30mm is length.

Once you get your head around it, metric is SO much easier than standard (inch) measurements.

 

[Kent B]

Okay... Good. I think I've got a grip on it now. Maybe I can remember this when I go looking for bolts again.

Thanks.