Massey Ferguson Tractors

kenmac · Oct 7, 2006

Who is building tractors for massey ferguson ? Do they come from India or japan these days ? What diesel engine is being used in the 25- 45 hp range ?

aesanders · Oct 7, 2006

Massey Fergusen Cuts are made by Iseki in Japan. The engine is an Iseki as well and are very dependable. I'm not sure how long Iseki has been the manufacturer, but it has been for quite awhile.

kenmac · Oct 7, 2006

That's what I thought .A friend at work says his father has a 2000 or 2002 mod. massey 40 hp that's has a perkins in it . Is this possible ?

JerryG · Oct 7, 2006

Iseki has been making MF compacts since about 1990 or 1991 depending on who's numbers you look at. Iseki started building tractors in 1962 and they are now one of the largest manufactures of compact tractors and rice combines in Japan.

Farmwithjunk · Oct 7, 2006

kenmac said:
That's what I thought .A friend at work says his father has a 2000 or 2002 mod. massey 40 hp that's has a perkins in it . Is this possible ?

Not only POSSIBLE, but PROBABLE. The 400 series utility tractors used Perkins diesels.

kenmac · Oct 7, 2006

Thank's junk, So you think it's probably a perkins & not an Iseki engine ? What series used the Iseki engine ?

Farmwithjunk · Oct 7, 2006

kenmac said:
Thank's junk, So you think it's probably a perkins & not an Iseki engine ? What series used the Iseki engine ?

JerryG or Scotty can give you better info there. I'm not very "informed" on the compacts. I believe the are all 1XXX series though.

The smaller 400 series tractors are very simular to the model 35 and 50 that featured the Perkins 3-cylinder (AD152-3) on their diesel versions way back in the mid 1950's. It was such a simple but effective design then, more than 50 years later they still sell in big numbers all over the world.

JerryG · Oct 7, 2006

The 1100s, 1200s, 1400s and 1500s have been Iseki.

JerryG · Oct 7, 2006

Is there a certain model that you are looking at?

kenmac · Oct 8, 2006

No , just that a friend at work said that his dad had a 40-45 hp massey & he said he thought that it had a perkins deisel & I had heard here (or somewhere) that they had an Iseki engine. I guess Hinomoto don't build massey's anymore . It's hard to keep up with with who is building who's tractor. Kinda like the A/C business. You never know from 1 day to the next who bought out who .
Thanks, for the info jerry

California · Oct 8, 2006

Are there any models of gray-market Iseki that would have good parts support because they are a twin to a US Massey? And just as important - will the Massey dealer sell you parts?

JerryG · Oct 8, 2006

kenmac said:
No , just that a friend at work said that his dad had a 40-45 hp massey & he said he thought that it had a perkins deisel & I had heard here (or somewhere) that they had an Iseki engine. I guess Hinomoto don't build massey's anymore . It's hard to keep up with with who is building who's tractor. Kinda like the A/C business. You never know from 1 day to the next who bought out who .
Thanks, for the info jerry

Iseki started building the compacts when Hinomoto was dropped. If it has a Perkins it would be a utility tractor instead of a compact.

Woodbeef · Oct 8, 2006

It could be a 200 series also. If so could be from the U.K.,Poland,Turkey.......

mark4Jesus · Oct 10, 2006

I was cleaning mine today. When I took the rubber mat off of the deck and washed it off, I could see Iseki on the bottom of the mat. Part of it had been cut away when the mat was trimmed to fit.

Travis_R · Oct 13, 2006

My uncle has a 97' or 98' Massey Ferguson 231 with the Perkins engine. I was using it the other day and happened to look at the manufacture's label. It said "Agco Corporation" (which I already knew), and it said that it was made in Turkey or Poland. I'm not for sure which one it said though. But I think it may have been Turkey.

Anyway, the tractor hasn't been taken care of. It just blew 2 head gaskets in one week (got the head shaved and that fixed it the second time.) The hydraulics barely work and I do mean Barely. The position control has to be all the way in the "raised" position and the draft control lever is what 'controls' the lift up and down motion. ALL the lights are busted out on it. He has his brake pedals held up with a piece of rope!! Only the left brake works sometimes.

The tractor ONLY has about 1075 hrs. on the working meter. But again- it hasn't been taken care of at all.

I really like how the tractor is "low profile" and how the foot throttle operates and its location.

I almost bought a 231 before I bought my Mahindra 485.

I absolutely love how the 231 Massey Ferguson looks and feels.

Travis R

Farmwithjunk · Oct 14, 2006

Travis_R said:
My uncle has a 97' or 98' Massey Ferguson 231 with the Perkins engine. I was using it the other day and happened to look at the manufacture's label. It said "Agco Corporation" (which I already knew), and it said that it was made in Turkey or Poland. I'm not for sure which one it said though. But I think it may have been Turkey.

Anyway, the tractor hasn't been taken care of. It just blew 2 head gaskets in one week (got the head shaved and that fixed it the second time.) The hydraulics barely work and I do mean Barely. The position control has to be all the way in the "raised" position and the draft control lever is what 'controls' the lift up and down motion. ALL the lights are busted out on it. He has his brake pedals held up with a piece of rope!! Only the left brake works sometimes.

The tractor ONLY has about 1075 hrs. on the working meter. But again- it hasn't been taken care of at all.

I really like how the tractor is "low profile" and how the foot throttle operates and its location.

I almost bought a 231 before I bought my Mahindra 485.

I absolutely love how the 231 Massey Ferguson looks and feels.

Travis R

So did several million other people apparently! The 231 can trace it's lineage back to the TO-35, TO-30, even the TO-20. The basic concept really started to take shape with the MF 35, then was refined further to the immortal 135. With higher or lower HP variants, the small Massey Ferguson utility has been a hot seller worldwide for more than 50 years. Park a 431 next to a 135 and start making comparisons. When you find something that works, stick with it. Best part is, with SOME care and upkeep, these tractors will wear out the Energizer Bunny.

WilliamBos · Oct 16, 2006

Farmwithjunk said:
So did several million other people apparently! The 231 can trace it's lineage back to the TO-35, TO-30, even the TO-20. The basic concept really started to take shape with the MF 35, then was refined further to the immortal 135. With higher or lower HP variants, the small Massey Ferguson utility has been a hot seller worldwide for more than 50 years. Park a 431 next to a 135 and start making comparisons. When you find something that works, stick with it. Best part is, with SOME care and upkeep, these tractors will wear out the Energizer Bunny.

Exactly!! With regualr maintenance, or even occasional, these things will last for ever!! With out any mantenance, nothing will last too long!!

Farmwithjunk · Oct 17, 2006

WilliamBos said:
Exactly!! With regualr maintenance, or even occasional, these things will last for ever!! With out any mantenance, nothing will last too long!!

Simple....easy to work on, easy to understand how it works, easy to find qualified mechanics when you need one, and easy to find aftermarket parts when the O.E.M. parts get pricey.

Those atributes will get people to maintain equipment that might not otherwise.

Those atributes might also be the reason why they last with only minimal maint. in the first place.