Loader Mahindra hydraulic sensitivity

[mahpop]

General question on the Mahindra hydraulics: Two of my neighbors have Mahindra tractors and both of them are extremely sensitive when using the front loader. By that I mean you just barely move the loader lever to make small adjustments and the thing goes into full operating capacity. This is extremely dangerous when loading/tilting or any other use of the front loader control. Has anyone on here had a similar experience with their tractor?

My thought is there should be a metering valve of some sort to regulate the pressure to the controls consistent with the amount of demand from the joy stick. Mahindra hasn't answered my emails about this problem but that's par for the course.

Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[LAWALLSTRACTOR]

Gee, most of the complaints are that they are to slow.

 

[seaneastok]

Thanks Galen..My thought exactly..While my loader will do whatever I ask it to, I feel it could do it faster.I recently found the max while unloading the red iron for the new shop(40 x 50 with 14' sidewalls ) It didnt like it but it did it.
Mahpop..Just curious why you are contacting Mahindra on your neighbors behalf and expecting an email ? Why havent your neighbors contacted Mahindra with said loader problem? No offense meant....I for one would love a faster cycle time on my loader and after warranty is up? who knows........

 

[oldnslo]

The speed control of the FEL depends on the metering capabilities of the control valve spool. Some valves have metering notches in them to provide the slow speed control others do not. I replaced the FEL valve on my Branson for this reason.

 

[kidkioti]

This Senior Citizen may be out of line here, but I have a Kioti that also has, what you would call an extremely sensitive FEL control. You have to be aware that you have a very little room to work the control, and you have to move it very slowly when you find that spot. I haven't had it done yet, but the dealer mentioned that there is some type of device that can be put in the hydraulic system to help with the situation. Not sure but some type of re stricter valve. Meantime I have to be very careful & conscience of that. Hope this helps? KK

 

[DavesTractor]

The speed control of the FEL depends on the metering capabilities of the control valve spool. Some valves have metering notches in them to provide the slow speed control others do not. I replaced the FEL valve on my Branson for this reason.

Exactly. Valves without fine metering capabilities can be touchy, especially when heavily loaded and trying to do precise work. You notice this most when using a tractor for a forklift's job, like loading a truck with heavy stuff that must be placed precisely. It's not noticed when scooping dirt from a pile and moving it somewhere and dumping it.

But to answer the original post, it is really rare for us to hear from a customer that they feel the loader is too sensitive or quick. But if we do, it is generally because they are doing something like slinging an engine out of their pickup truck's engine bay and trying to lift up a 1/4" at a time, stuff for which the loader and valve is really not designed. Just like a small backhoe, it will not have the same quality of controls as installed on a $100k excavator. When an experienced operator comes in and buys a backhoe for his SCUT, I remind him of this to manage expectations.


In a perfect world, if cost was not a factor, I'd prefer the very best most precisely metered valve.

 

[ENG18LT]

Ah, yeah, not exactly a problem here either, rather the opposite.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

This Senior Citizen may be out of line here, but I have a Kioti that also has, what you would call an extremely sensitive FEL control. You have to be aware that you have a very little room to work the control, and you have to move it very slowly when you find that spot. I haven't had it done yet, but the dealer mentioned that there is some type of device that can be put in the hydraulic system to help with the situation. Not sure but some type of re stricter valve. Meantime I have to be very careful & conscience of that. Hope this helps? KK

The thing about flow restrictors is that they really should not be used where the hydraulics are used a lot as in a FEL. They tend to heat up the oil quite a bit when continually used and really are not the correct solution for the problem. Will they work, you bet. How long without causing some sort of damage, unknown. :confused3: Flow restrictors in a potentially high use situation is not something that I would want to try and end up having "real problems" with ANY of the tractors talked about here on TBN.

 

[mahpop]

Seaneastok
Both of my neighbors are in their late 70's and are not computer literate. I'm just trying to do them a favor along with myself as I do a lot of their farm work for them. Also one of them only has one arm due to an accident last September. We tried to contact Mahindra through email twice but they have not answered as of yet. We called the closest dealer who is 65 miles away and all they told us was to "bring it in for service". I thought if I got a heads up and found others with the same problem it would save us some time and the dealer couldn't BS us and rip them off. Loading the machine and taking it 65 miles to leave it with them means a total of 260 miles traveling time for them. Two trips up and two trips back. Just trying to save them some time and effort.

 

[mahpop]

DavesTractor
On the farms where they use the machines, actually where I do most of it, we move 400# bales of hay, an occasional 55 gallon drum of fuel, a 500# pallet of dog food for one guys 17 dogs, feed for the horses/cattle, driveway grading, usually nothing over 5-600#. I'm a John Deere backhoe operator so I'm conscious of loads/weights/positioning/etc....So we are not overreaching the capabilities of the machines.