eBay/Craigslist Low Priced Tractorson ebay
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Those are usually fraudulent and Ebay is full of them.
You will see many clues after comparing a few of them, for example Dottie always sold baby clothes before and now suddenly tractors.
If enough people complain ebay will pull that auction and notify anyone who sent a message to the seller through ebay. Otherwise they don't do anything.
The goal of the bogus seller is to receive a real Western Union money order for a down payment. From as many hopeful buyers as possible per tractor auction.
You will see many clues after comparing a few of them, for example Dottie always sold baby clothes before and now suddenly tractors.
If enough people complain ebay will pull that auction and notify anyone who sent a message to the seller through ebay. Otherwise they don't do anything.
The goal of the bogus seller is to receive a real Western Union money order for a down payment. From as many hopeful buyers as possible per tractor auction.
EFC
Veteran Member
It happened to my eBay store. They hijack your store and put a ton of cheep stuff for sale with a buy it now price. They only accept western union or the like. Stay away!!!
Buck.
Buck.
CTyler
Veteran Member
How did they hi-jack your store?
6or7dazeaweek
Silver Member
There's a LOT of smart thieves out there that are computer savvy just waiting to take your money. If it looks to good to be true, it is. I received an official looking email from Ebay today saying that this person was trying to pay me for over 30 days & I had not responded. Perhaps my account on Ebay has been compromised as I have not sold anything on there in a long time
I looked at the entire email header and suspected that the message was fraudulent..in which case I forwarded it to Ebay.
Caveat Emptor!
I looked at the entire email header and suspected that the message was fraudulent..in which case I forwarded it to Ebay.
Caveat Emptor!
Deere_parts
Silver Member
I too am a power seller on eBay. Stay away from those 24 hr restricted bid ads. They are frauds and if you do a little search using the title you will often find another fraudulant ad of the same exact tractor using the same exact title, pictures, and desciption and I mean exact to every word.
You can also do an advanced search of completed listings earlier using the title or at least part of it and find the real ad that sold a week or 2 earlier. Again this will be exactly the same word for word.
Key things that tip off a fraud ad is:
1). A buy now price of $3500 on a $20,000 machine
2). Pictures that show a New York Century 21 for sale sign that was in front of a bidder registered in the United KINGDOM (yes I saw this)
3). These listings ALWAYS have all of the listing promotional items like Featured gallery where it's at the top of the page, Bold Print, A border around it and are highlighted in color. Basicly the ad would cost $30 to place instead of the $0.65 to $1.60 like my ads and most others do. (why not, it's not their account they hacked)
4). These High profile ads will have hardly any bids on a $20,000 tractor with less than 24 hrs to go and the bidding will be at like $41. That will NEVER happen on a real ad for a 2004 JD or Kubota compact.
5). These ads are usually only 1 day ads to get a quick sucker. If I sold something like that it would be a 10 day ad for maximum exposure to 15 million people and my best possible price.
6). If you ask them for additional pictures I gaurauntee they will send you a file called "Pictures.EXE" or "Pictures.ZIP" or another type of compressed file. DO NOT OPEN IT.....I REPEAT.....DO NOT OPEN IT. Unless you are a computer expert or darn close to it like myself and know how to fix this or keep it from actually executing while you disect it. This is an executable program that your antivirus program will NOT detect. It changes the hosts file in your computer for the IP address to escrow.com and if you were to try to log onto the legitimate escrow.com you are actually being taken to a fake look alike site for you to wire funds into a fake escrow account.
7). These ads will almost always be restricted to preapproved bidders
If you have opened one of these Pictures.EXE or Pictures.ZIP programs PLEASE feel free to contact me and I will help you restore your hosts file to the way it is supposed to be. It's not hard to do but you have to know how to get to it.
These ads are now showing up on small items but they are very discreet and almost undetectable. I almost fell for one myselfe today for a John Deere collectors train set I've been thinking of getting and have been watching the prices on.
What caught my eye was the ad sounded familiar and the picture looked familiar to one I watched end 5 days ago so I did a search of completed listings and found it. EXACT same picture, title and wording right sown to the serial # of this collectors set that sold to a different bidder than the one who was now selling it 5 days later. WOW I can't beleive 2 different people can sell the same serial numbered train set and have it sit on the same exact shelf in 2 different states after passing through 3 peoples hands in 5 days. That's some fast transactions.
I reported it to eBay and placed a proxy bid of $1000 on this train set that normally sells for $80 - $100 because it only had 19 hours left and sometimes it takes ebay 48 hrs to respond to a question. I figure they will pull it when the check the 2 auction listing numbers I gave them and I won't get a hit for being a non paying bidder. I mess with these fraudulant ads every time I see one and verify it as a fake. I wonder how many thiefs are still waiting for me to send them payments this week.
Please note that I only do this when I verify a fraudulant ad by researching it and have never pulled non payment on a real seller. I still have 100% positive feedback
If anybody here ever wonders about the legitimacy of an ad for a tractor with a price too good to be true feel free to send me an email with the auction number and I'd be happy to look at it and give you my opinion but I can't be responsible for your decision to buy.
You can also do an advanced search of completed listings earlier using the title or at least part of it and find the real ad that sold a week or 2 earlier. Again this will be exactly the same word for word.
Key things that tip off a fraud ad is:
1). A buy now price of $3500 on a $20,000 machine
2). Pictures that show a New York Century 21 for sale sign that was in front of a bidder registered in the United KINGDOM (yes I saw this)
3). These listings ALWAYS have all of the listing promotional items like Featured gallery where it's at the top of the page, Bold Print, A border around it and are highlighted in color. Basicly the ad would cost $30 to place instead of the $0.65 to $1.60 like my ads and most others do. (why not, it's not their account they hacked)
4). These High profile ads will have hardly any bids on a $20,000 tractor with less than 24 hrs to go and the bidding will be at like $41. That will NEVER happen on a real ad for a 2004 JD or Kubota compact.
5). These ads are usually only 1 day ads to get a quick sucker. If I sold something like that it would be a 10 day ad for maximum exposure to 15 million people and my best possible price.
6). If you ask them for additional pictures I gaurauntee they will send you a file called "Pictures.EXE" or "Pictures.ZIP" or another type of compressed file. DO NOT OPEN IT.....I REPEAT.....DO NOT OPEN IT. Unless you are a computer expert or darn close to it like myself and know how to fix this or keep it from actually executing while you disect it. This is an executable program that your antivirus program will NOT detect. It changes the hosts file in your computer for the IP address to escrow.com and if you were to try to log onto the legitimate escrow.com you are actually being taken to a fake look alike site for you to wire funds into a fake escrow account.
7). These ads will almost always be restricted to preapproved bidders
If you have opened one of these Pictures.EXE or Pictures.ZIP programs PLEASE feel free to contact me and I will help you restore your hosts file to the way it is supposed to be. It's not hard to do but you have to know how to get to it.
These ads are now showing up on small items but they are very discreet and almost undetectable. I almost fell for one myselfe today for a John Deere collectors train set I've been thinking of getting and have been watching the prices on.
What caught my eye was the ad sounded familiar and the picture looked familiar to one I watched end 5 days ago so I did a search of completed listings and found it. EXACT same picture, title and wording right sown to the serial # of this collectors set that sold to a different bidder than the one who was now selling it 5 days later. WOW I can't beleive 2 different people can sell the same serial numbered train set and have it sit on the same exact shelf in 2 different states after passing through 3 peoples hands in 5 days. That's some fast transactions.
I reported it to eBay and placed a proxy bid of $1000 on this train set that normally sells for $80 - $100 because it only had 19 hours left and sometimes it takes ebay 48 hrs to respond to a question. I figure they will pull it when the check the 2 auction listing numbers I gave them and I won't get a hit for being a non paying bidder. I mess with these fraudulant ads every time I see one and verify it as a fake. I wonder how many thiefs are still waiting for me to send them payments this week.
Please note that I only do this when I verify a fraudulant ad by researching it and have never pulled non payment on a real seller. I still have 100% positive feedback
If anybody here ever wonders about the legitimacy of an ad for a tractor with a price too good to be true feel free to send me an email with the auction number and I'd be happy to look at it and give you my opinion but I can't be responsible for your decision to buy.
Deere_parts
Silver Member
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( There's a LOT of smart thieves out there that are computer savvy just waiting to take your money. If it looks to good to be true, it is. I received an official looking email from Ebay today saying that this person was trying to pay me for over 30 days & I had not responded. Perhaps my account on Ebay has been compromised as I have not sold anything on there in a long time
I looked at the entire email header and suspected that the message was fraudulent..in which case I forwarded it to Ebay.
Caveat Emptor! )</font>
Excellent point and I missed that when I first read this thread.
The emails from eBay and PayPal that the "Caveat Emptor" is talking about are called "Phishing" (pronounced fishing. They want you to click on the link to log into ebay, What you are really doing is logging into their phony sign in page and Voila they have your user name and password so they can now log into your ebay account, change your information and commit fraudulant acts in your name with the money going to them and you get the bill for all of the listing, promotional and final value fees. If you gave them your paypal account and it is linked to your bank and/or credit cards they can now transfer money to themselves out of your bank and buy stuff with your credit card.
If you realize you accidently replied to one immediatly report it to ebay and change your passwords before you get hacked.
I looked at the entire email header and suspected that the message was fraudulent..in which case I forwarded it to Ebay.
Caveat Emptor! )</font>
Excellent point and I missed that when I first read this thread.
The emails from eBay and PayPal that the "Caveat Emptor" is talking about are called "Phishing" (pronounced fishing. They want you to click on the link to log into ebay, What you are really doing is logging into their phony sign in page and Voila they have your user name and password so they can now log into your ebay account, change your information and commit fraudulant acts in your name with the money going to them and you get the bill for all of the listing, promotional and final value fees. If you gave them your paypal account and it is linked to your bank and/or credit cards they can now transfer money to themselves out of your bank and buy stuff with your credit card.
If you realize you accidently replied to one immediatly report it to ebay and change your passwords before you get hacked.
EFC
Veteran Member
I received an email through eBay that my eBay toolbar said was safe. When I opened the email it put a tracker on my computer so the next time I logged into eBay it copied my password. The hijacker changed my password so I couldn’t log in to stop it.
Buck
Buck
bugstruck
Platinum Member
I got one of those fraudulent EBay messages today at work. The one where your account is being suspended. Unsolicited Paypal messages, same thing. Avoid them.
EBay may send you promotional email that is real. Anything to do with your account requires you to log in to "My Account". That's where they send all messages involving the legitimate transfer of sensitive information and pertinent account information. So the rule is; if you didn't go looking for it, and it's not purely promotional, it's probably not real. I think they might offer Sellers the ability to set up messaging or email notices directly from their account to their designated address(s)/devices. Not sure on that though. If so, you'd verify those and respond by simply logging in first. Won't cover all the fraud, but will the vast majority.
Nothing new on the cheap fraudulent tractors. Almost always there. Also, the Western Union, etc. pay methods, as was mentioned, are a red flag.
EBay may send you promotional email that is real. Anything to do with your account requires you to log in to "My Account". That's where they send all messages involving the legitimate transfer of sensitive information and pertinent account information. So the rule is; if you didn't go looking for it, and it's not purely promotional, it's probably not real. I think they might offer Sellers the ability to set up messaging or email notices directly from their account to their designated address(s)/devices. Not sure on that though. If so, you'd verify those and respond by simply logging in first. Won't cover all the fraud, but will the vast majority.
Nothing new on the cheap fraudulent tractors. Almost always there. Also, the Western Union, etc. pay methods, as was mentioned, are a red flag.
Deere_parts
Silver Member
Every REAL message that ebay sends you will be found on your "My eBay" page under messages and it will notify you that you have a message on that page.
Do not open email messages from ebay unless you double check in you "my Ebay" page to see if they actually sent you one.
The only ones I respond to are from my buyers or sellers everything else I forward as an attachment to spoof@ebay.com or spoof@paypal.com If you ever wonder about an email from them send it to those email address and they will tell you if it is spoof mail or not.
I don't use or trust a toolbar added to my browser for anything, Actually I wont install or use anybodies toolbars to do the same thing I can do with any regular browser
Do not open email messages from ebay unless you double check in you "my Ebay" page to see if they actually sent you one.
The only ones I respond to are from my buyers or sellers everything else I forward as an attachment to spoof@ebay.com or spoof@paypal.com If you ever wonder about an email from them send it to those email address and they will tell you if it is spoof mail or not.
I don't use or trust a toolbar added to my browser for anything, Actually I wont install or use anybodies toolbars to do the same thing I can do with any regular browser