Loader Lift Capacity

[lincmercguy]

I have a JD 5105 with a JD 521 loader. I'm looking at buying an automotive lift at some point, and most of them require you to unload off of the semi trailer when they deliver. The pallet weight is 1700lbs. I'm wondering how well this rig will do with that heavy of a load. The forks I have are rated for 3000lbs and Tractordata indicates that the breakforce is 3000lbs and lift to full height capacity is 2000lbs. This would be just taking it off of the truck and setting it on the ground. I can break down the pallet from that point to take it to the install point.

The largest load I've lifted with it is a 1300lb shed kit that was on a 4x8 pallet. I lifted it off of a flatbed trailer and sat it on the ground. The back tire did spin a bit when backing up (uphill). At the time, I only had a Behlen box blade on the back for counterweight. I don't have wheel weights or tire ballast. Now I have a 7' brush hog that weighs more and sticks out quite a bit. I think this will make a good counterweight.

When I bought the tractor, I test lifted a grass round bale. They had a post hole auger on the back. It handled the bale easily.

Anyone else have the same setup and experience with heavy loads?

 

[goeduck]

I do not have that setup but the more weight on your 3 point the better. If it has not shipped, can you get them to break it into 2 pallets. There are two things that concern me, your forks plus frame weight has to to be figured in and the possibility that the pallets will be deep to the point it takes a lot off of your lift capacity. Lastly, a box truck would be better than a semi to unload from since the bed is lower and you have more lift down low. Could the trucker lift gate it? Costs a little more usually.

 

[beenthere]

The 521 manual has capacities for similar model tractors, that may help you.. looks like you will have no problem lifting the 1700 lbs.
OMW47578: 521 and 541 Loaders, Block File: OUO6038_00001C2_19_05DEC00.htm

Lift it, but don't try to turn with it.. let the truck drive out and be ready to lower the loader.. once had an oversize pallet on my little jd4300 pallet forks.. lifted it fine, but when backing away had to turn a bit.. back wheels started up so lowered the FEL in a hurry.. no damage, but caused the heart rate to change. Then I learned that the pallet was way over the weight I was told..

 

[goeduck]

The key is to know the pallet dimensions in addition to the weight. If the center of gravity to too far out, it could really reduce your effective lift which is rated way back at the pins.

It like giving the pallet a cheater bar against your loader.

 

[Tx Jim]

The key is to know the pallet dimensions in addition to the weight. If the center of gravity to too far out, it could really reduce your effective lift which is rated way back at the pins.

It like giving the pallet a cheater bar against your loader.

Ditto further in frt of pallet fork pivot pins that the auto lift is located the more difficult it will be to keep rear tractor tires on the ground.

 

[shooterdon]

I would not try it, but I am very cautious. Good advice to have it shipped on two pallets. Lift gate service can vary in cost but worth looking at. That makes it simple once it is on the ground.

Or lift it off in pieces once it gets there. Give the trucker $20 for his time for the 15 minutes to break the pallet down. Just have all the chains/straps you will need ready as well as crowbar, hammer and snips to cut banding.

 

[lincmercguy]

To answer a couple of questions:

1. It has not shipped, I haven't purchased yet. I'm just planning ahead.

2. This was a listing from Northern Tool. I haven't made a final decision yet, just planning ahead

3. The listing states it's too large for the liftgate, which is not surprising.

4. The listing states it comes in a single palette from the manufacturer. Shipping as two is not available.

I do have some other options, I could have it shipped to the depot, and have them load it on my flatbed for me. Then I can bring it home that way. I also have not looked around town at all. Since I'm close to Denver, I'm sure there's a place that sells them and can receive it there and load it onto my flatbed. I would prefer that, but haven't dug into it yet.

Those who spoke about the palette dimensions and weight distribution, that makes sense. Part of it is simply weight, but the other part is the torque that it's putting onto the loader with the front wheels being the pivot point. That's also why I think the mower helps because it sticks pretty far out of the back. The mower is a Rhino SE-7. I can't find the exact weight, but similar mowers are about 1300lbs. I would believe it's around the same.

 

[LouNY]

One major point to consider is that load will not be even close to your loader pins.
The reason that it will not lift gate is that the masts are likely one piece and greater then 8 ft long.
It most likely will be loaded the long way into the trailer, and most of those trailers are box trailers,
you can't do a side unload with them.
You will have to do a couple of slings, most likely after pulling the load to the rear of the truck,
then the balance point is likely to be 4 feet or further in the trailer, can you reach that far in over your load?

 

[Deere Dude]

What happens if it gets delivered to your home and you cannot lift it?
I would talk to a factory in the area with a loading dock. They will get it off the truck for you and generally happy to do it.

 

[Diggin It]

An option to consider IF you have the yard space to do it. Build up a mound of dirt to the truck bed height. Use blocks or railroad ties to make a straight-ish front edge. Those dimensions aren't hard to find. Have the truck back up to that mound. Use chains to pull the pallet off the truck onto the mound.