I was very devout to lawnboy, I loved them, uptil my last one. I purchased 4 at the same time, all push mowers, all traditional lawnboy design, all SUPPOSED to be good mowers. But, such wasn't the case. Two of the four had the Honda's which yes are and still are and always will be amazing engines. The other two had the traditional lawnboy 2-cycle engines, the engines were horrible, I took them into the shop each about 7 times, and after all that Toro still wouldn't stand behind there product and replace it, now maybe its just me but to have a lawnmower in the shop 7 times, within 1.5 years sound acceptable? I didn't think so, so I traded off all four lawnboys to my dealer and bought snappers. Now, as far as toro homeowner ZTR's stay away, I have a friend who is a Toro dealer, and has won many Toro awards as far as sales and service and satisfaction, and he quit carrying them because they were always junk, and he thinks they always will be. As for the commericial ZTR's they are pretty decent, far superior design to homeowner products, but you definately pay the price. So all in all, I would personally ever buy a Toro made homeowner ZTR, commercial thats different, but I would stay away from the homeowner stuff. Thats just me, good luck