Kubta b7100 engine removal

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Cub Cadet 127, Kubota B7100 HST
I'm looking for some experienced b7100 owners here to perhaps give me a little advice.

This winter I'm doing a rebuild of my b7100's engine (blowing lots of oil at idle and lots of blowby at any time when running)...and I'm wondering how to get the engine out. I've heard it's neccessary to split the tractor, but for obvious reasons I'd like to avoid that unless I have to do it. So..the questions:

-Is there a way to get the engine out without splitting the tractor? Maybe removing the front driveshaft to access the oil pan?

-If not, how would I go about splitting the tractor? I haven't done this before, so help on the process would be appreciated.

-Also, on a side note, how do I do a compression check?

Thanks!!
 
   / Kubta b7100 engine removal #2  
Depending on the condition of the engine you could do some work without removing the engine. If you are going to do any crank work it has to come out. You can: replace the main bearings, remove the pistons. replace the piston rings, replace the crank bearings, remove the head and perform any head work that needs to be done. The problem is that you really don't know what has to be done until you tear it down. Then the condition of the components should determine what to rebuild/replace or how much farther to go. What series engine is it? I think that is a D905 3 cylinder if my info is correct. If you go to tear it down let me know I may have some reference material for that engine.
 
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If you do decide to try to rebuild without spliting, be very - very careful with the crankshaft. Protect as well as you can from grit and grime falling down on it, especially when deglazing the cylinder walls. I would also recommend washing everything two our three times with dishwashing detergent added to the wash water. Then using low pressure air. High pressure air will force small grit particles into some very small and later damaging places.
 
   / Kubta b7100 engine removal #4  
If you do decide to try to rebuild without spliting, be very - very careful with the crankshaft. Protect as well as you can from grit and grime falling down on it, especially when deglazing the cylinder walls. I would also recommend washing everything two our three times with dishwashing detergent added to the wash water. Then using low pressure air. High pressure air will force small grit particles into some very small and later damaging places.

Great points.:thumbsup:
 
   / Kubta b7100 engine removal #5  
Darn good advice has been given!
Take notes/photos also you may consider service manual,yes manual pricey but well worth the cost.
 
   / Kubta b7100 engine removal #6  
If you have the ability to pull the head and remove the rods and pistons you have the ability to remove the engine.

The way I would go about doing it is to remove the front axle frame assy. leaving the radiator attached. If it has a loader, I would raise it all of the way up, block it up with some angle iron cut to the proper length to hold it at the full height, remove the hood and side panels, which also means removing the muffler and air cleaner. Drain the coolant and remove the radiator hoses, put a jack under the loader frame or brake/clutch pedal shaft lifting it up just enough to take the weight off of the front end, loosen the clamp on the driveshaft cover and slide it up, then remove the 8 bolts on each side that hold the axle frame to the engine. After that you can just pull the whole front end assy. away from the machine. Now there is room to remove the oil pan.

Now if you find that you do need to remove the engine it is right there out in the open. All you would have to do is remove the hydraulic lines to the pump, the fuel line from the tank, and the bolts holding to engine to the clutch housing.

Odds are it will need to be rebored. I have just reringed them, but the proper repair would have been to bore the cylinders and replace the pistons and rings. On this size Kubota engine you can replace the rod bearings, but to replace the main bearings the engine has to be removed. The crank and main bearing assemblies slide into the block from the rear of the engine.

Let me know if you have anymore questions.

Brian

In order to do a compression test you will need the proper adapter to either screw into the injector holes or the glow plug holes and a compression gauge that reads at least 500 psi, intended for diesel engines.
 
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Thanks for all the great info everyone. This will be EXTREMELY valuable as I go further in the project, possibly next weekend. I'm doing it with a friend and we just want to be sure about what we are doing. One more question...is the Kubota b7100 engine a sleeved engine? You guys mention honing, but I was under the impression that it was sleeved and I could replace those...I guess not. I have the capability to hone with a drill attachment my friend owns. Unfortunately I'm not made of money, and therefore a honing, a ring replacement, a head gasket replacement, and possibly one new cylinder (if I find it's burnt one) is about as far as I can go at this point. Thanks again!
 
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Yes, it does have liners, but they are dry liners and they aren't like wet liners where you can just drive out the old ones and slide in a new liner and piston assy. You can typically get at least one oversize bore out of the liner before it needs to be replaced. All of the liners I have had done, needed the liner machined out, the new one installed, and then it needed to be honed to size by the machine shop.

Brian
 
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All right, sounds good, at least they'll hold up to one light honing. Thanks again for all your help, it's great to hear from a bunch of people more experienced than myself. I'll be coming back once I get further in the project.
 
   / Kubta b7100 engine removal #10  
In the WSM manual they show the front wheel assembly comes off and then the motor. I think by removing the front wheel assembly you would have all the access you need to the motor without disconnecting it from the transmission. would have to figure out how to support it really well though.
 

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