Kubota m7040 vs kioti rx6010

[Balko]

Hi all I'm new to farming and tractors and have been trying to pick what is the best tractor for my 50 acres for slashing, disc ploughing , a few other easy jobs around the farm. The sales rep only say there's are good here is my picks. Kubota m7040 with a 4in1 loader ( no cab) or a daedong rx6010 with 4in1 and cab. If it was your choice what would you pick and why. Ie build no good on kioti, power more in kubota, better features, ect ect.

Thanks in advance as I will be making my purchase on your advice as you all are impartial nd have a wealth of experience Thanks again Balko

 

[bigbull338]

all i can tell you is go drive your 2 choices.an see wich of them fitts your needs.now i only know about the kubota as thats what i have.

 

[TripleR]

You can get hydraulic shuttle shift on the M7040, more HP, limited slip front differential, BUT you get a cab with the Kioti and 12/12 transmission as opposed to 8/8 on the Kubota. Not an apples to apples comparison, but between the two as listed I am pretty sure I would be going with the Kioti, put a cab on the Kubota and different story; both are in my opinion really dependable tractors and you will have a good machine whichever you choose.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I too would lean towards the Kioti. I would get it with the power shuttle and the 3 rear remotes.

 

[Balko]

I too would lean towards the Kioti. I would get it with the power shuttle and the 3 rear remotes.

Great these are the things I need to know. Ie Power shuttle and 3 rear remotes I don't know what either is but will find out. Thanks for advice as I don't have a clue

 

[Balko]

You can get hydraulic shuttle shift on the M7040, more HP, limited slip front differential, BUT you get a cab with the Kioti and 12/12 transmission as opposed to 8/8 on the Kubota. Not an apples to apples comparison, but between the two as listed I am pretty sure I would be going with the Kioti, put a cab on the Kubota and different story; both are in my opinion really dependable tractors and you will have a good machine whichever you choose.

Thanks for input your advice is great cheers

 

[TripleR]

Thanks for input your advice is great cheers

You are more than welcome, rear remotes allow you to remotely operate implements with hydraulic implements cylinders such as several types of rotary cutters, box scraper with hydraulic scarifiers, hydraulic top link, side link and so on. I have Top and Tilt on one of mine which has hydraulic top link and side link with the third to operate the hydraulic scarifiers on our Land Pride HR3584.

I don't know if the Kioti offer hydraulic shuttle shift or not, but it is the type of transmission in which movement of the shuttle lever triggers a hydraulic clutch so you don't need to use the foot clutch to change directions etc.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

You are more than welcome, rear remotes allow you to remotely operate implements with hydraulic implements cylinders such as several types of rotary cutters, box scraper with hydraulic scarifiers, hydraulic top link, side link and so on. I have Top and Tilt on one of mine which has hydraulic top link and side link with the third to operate the hydraulic scarifiers on our Land Pride HR3584.

I don't know if the Kioti offer hydraulic shuttle shift or not, but it is the type of transmission in which movement of the shuttle lever triggers a hydraulic clutch so you don't need to use the foot clutch to change directions etc.

They do on the RX6010 anyway, I double checked before I recommended it.

 

[TripleR]

They do on the RX6010 anyway, I double checked before I recommended it.

Even better, I didn't look close enough as below the RX6010 with the specs of sync shuttle is "Power Shuttle Cab

Isn't there an active thread on here, "You know you're old when..."

 

[mkreitler]

I looked at them all and in my jugement the KUBOTA is the better choice KIOTI is known in my part of the country as the poor man's KUBOTA if you look closely at the KUBOTA and the KIOTI side by side it's like KIOTI copied off KUBOTA. After all KUBOTA has been in the U.S.a lot longer than KIOTI,like bigbull said try them both out and see ,REMENBER QUALITY REMAINS LONG AFTER PRICE. I think KUBOTA has the highest QUALITY of the two also the KIOTI RX 6010 PC only has 59HP VS 71 on the KUBOTA M7040 like i said you have to be the JUDGE it' your money. My self I went with the KUBOTA M7040 and as happy as a fox in a hen house.

 

[MikeFarm]

Hi all

I have a Kioti RX6010C. Got it last year. Kioti didn't copy the Kubota. Daedong (i.e. Kioti) have been making tractors for decades and you can see how all manufacturers have evolved their products over time. Kioti is certainly new to the US but not in other parts of the world. Quality wise I think both are excellent but I'd agree Kubota will maintain it's value longer as it is known better and has a good reputation which takes years to build up.

Now what is it like; quality is excellent. I was actually tossing up my Kioti vs a Case Max Farm. Gears; In Aust we don't get the power shift, we get the one where you still have to press the clutch but it's real easy. I got used to it quick and I have been an automatic car driver for decades One difference too is that mine has a dry clutch, the power shift version has a wet clutch which would have been thousands more. The gear changes are smooth, 12F and 12R. It has diff locks and 4WD. The cab is nice and roomy. Engine layout is good, all seems quite accessible. A month ago I pulled a truck with a 20ft tray bed and a 20ft trailer attached out of the mud with ease. So far I have 40 hours on it.

But as someone said - get a go of both and decide. You will probably like one over the other for some reason.

Mike

 

[Gittyup]

Kioti has been in the U.S. market for over 30 years. Hardly a new kid on the block. Lacking widespread dealerships for sure, but getting better in this area.... slowly.

When I compared, the Kioti quality seemed to be just as good if not better in some parts. However, in the past Kioti has had problems with outsourced parts on some models. They have mostly corrected those issues and when they occurred, Kioti stood by the owners, making it right by replacing/repairing the inferior part with an improved one. I'm sure all there are similar stories for all mfrs. Kubota does seem to make more of their own parts, which inherently gives them better quality control.

 

[MBTRAC]

Kubota & Kioti (Daedong) both make good tractors.

For various reasons, including unsuitable applications/spec comparisions, we don't operate on our farms any Kubota farming tractors so our recent Kubota ownership experience is conifined to sub c.20hp where all have been exclusively used in lawn maintenance/garden tasks.

The Daedong DK1002 100hp we recently purchased for our farms as an initial "brand" evaluation/trial unit (as an alternative/relacement to more mainstream brands which we have become increasingly dissatisfied with) has in c.5months raked up c.400hrs hard yards of (ab)use with our emplpyee operators - no complaints & importantly no downtime/failures - check out this link if you require more details http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-buying-pricing/275132-dk90-shopping-2.html
Yes, I'll have no hesitation investing more money where my mouth is & we will be buying more Kioti/Daedongs this year - in my humble opinion, for our applications/this HP range, there's nothing that comes close to their overall value equation as a utility type tractor, combining performance & build quality in a well priced package with superior customer service.

We learnt a long time ago that commercial sense & maximising profitability of farming operations aren't contingent upon brand alliance/allegiance.

So it's interesting to see perceptions continuing like "Kioti's being a poor man's Kubota", I recall similar sentiments too when Kubota "upsized" from CUT's in our market & was perceived as the poor man's choice (in lieu of American/European brands) - oddly enough it was the likes of IH, Ford, Case, Massey Ferguson, Fiat, Allis ...etc who either became defunct or merged with other tractor brands to survive..... Look at vehicle brand volumes to see how the Koreans have rapidly increased global market share on the back of almost unbeatable value equation/volume production costs on "no-frills" products (just like the Japanese did to establish themselves in the 60's/70's) & they're doing the same with forklifts, earthmoving equipment, tractors...etc.