KIOTI KL4030 vs KL4030C loader?

Brownac71 · Jul 31, 2022

I just picked up a CK2610 HST yesterday from my local dealer. It had KL4030C loader with a 66" bucket. He told me it was the same as the KL4030, the C just referred to where it was made.

After getting it home I found on this site that the C model is the one made for the Canadian market. According to the Kioti website, the specs are similar but slightly different. The significant differences I found are:

KL4030C:
Lift Capacity at 59 in: 1,969 lbs.
Bucket Rollback Force at Ground Line: 2,758 lbs.
Breakout Force @ Pivot Pins: 2,989 lbs
Reach At Maximum Lift Height: 11.3 in.

KL4030:
Lift Capacity at 59 in: 1,835 lbs.
Bucket Rollback Force at Ground Line: 1,764 lbs.
Breakout Force @ Pivot Pins: 3,464 lbs
Reach At Maximum Lift Height: 27.2 in.

So my loader has a greater lift capacity, but less breakout force, which seems odd to me, but I can see maybe a different geometry could have that effect. Is one better than the other?

Also, how is my rollback so much greater, different cylinders, or is that a typo?

What is reach at max lift?

Did I get an upgrade, down grade, or break even with this Canadian loader?

hornett22 · Jul 31, 2022

I think it's mostly due to the Canadian rollback taxes.

finallydribben · Aug 1, 2022

My wife and I bought a 2022 CK4010SE that was delivered last week. It came with the 4030C loader too and I saw the spec differences and was wondering if it was a new spec for 2022 or something.

Brownac71 · Aug 1, 2022

I talked to my dealer this morning and he wasn't really aware of the differences in the specs. He said the reason some tractors are being sold with the C loader is because of supply chain issues. He said he would try to find out more about it and get back to me.

I did notice that in the manual it shows the reach at max height is measured from bucket lip at full dump to front edge of the grill guard. On the standard loader brochure I found online it looked like it was measured to the front of the hood. I measured mine last night and it was 18 in to the front of the hood, vs 27 in for the standard loader.

So if the rollback rating is accurate, it seems like the Canadian version would be better suited for digging, and the standard US version would be better for loading a trailer or small dump truck. My only other concern would be potential parts availability with a non US model.

finallydribben · Aug 1, 2022

Interesting. I'd like to know what he comes back with. Thanks for sharing.

Brownac71 · Aug 5, 2022

Still no information from my dealer. One thing I'm wondering is if the standard 4030 reach spec is measured at full dump or bucket flat. Is there anyone with a CK2610 and KL4030 that would be able to measure from the front of the grill guard to the front edge of the bucket at full height full dump?

Doughknob · Aug 5, 2022

Do u like it? Does it work? ……

Brownac71 · Aug 5, 2022

So far yes I like it and it works good. But if I ended up with loader with a significant disadvantage in capability I'd like to know so that I can possibly swap it out. Just yesterday I unloaded a new box blade from the back of my truck using my old Massey 240 with a 232 loader using a chain on my bucket hooks. Don't know the reach spec of the 232 is but I do know that if it was 9" shorter I wouldn't have been able to reach the box blade.

finallydribben · Aug 5, 2022

I emailed Kioti directly to see if they can answer our questions. I will let you know if I hear back from them.

finallydribben · Aug 5, 2022

I got a response within minutes from Kioti on this, so that was cool. Here is what they said:

Thank you for contacting KIOTI. The KL4030 is manufactured by Sindong and the KL4030C is manufactured by Taesung. Sindong could not keep up with our demand on their own which is why Taesung is making the KL4030C. KIOTI considers these loaders interchangeable. Other than the slight differences in specs noted on the spec sheet. The lift capacity is slightly higher on the KL4030C, but the breakout force is a little less. The KL4030C does have a higher bucket rollback force at 2,758lbs. There should be basically very little to no noticeable difference in operation between the two loaders.