John Deere PTO reverse safety switch. disable it?

[JD2210MAN]

I am wondering if anyone has disabled their PTO safety switch that John Deere uses to shut off their PTO when the reverse Hydro pedal is pressed. The lawn tractor is a 345 (2000 year with the 20HP). Again, you have to pull up on the switch every time you press the reverse pedal and if not... the PTO shuts off.

I have not looked too delpy at it yet and thought someone must have disabled it by now, on their own. Is there an easy way? Does anyone have a wiring diagram they could post as an attachment for the 345? I am so glad my 2210 does not have it, I can back up all I want on that tractor.

I hope to hear some good info! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[CFHartman]

I was looking at one a couple years back. The dealer told me to put something under the switch on the dash and hold it up all the time.
I ended up buying a 2210 instead.
Charlie

 

[creeper]

You should be able to find the back side of the switch where it penetrates the dash. There will probably only be 2 wires on it,if so you can just place a jumper across them. I do not own a 345 ,but have done this on other models.If the wires are conected with spade type, consider using piggyback conectors and you wouldn't have to cut any of your factory wires.

 

[rdln]

this will be my third season with the pto switch and am still on the fence.

Its only a little aggrevating when i forget to pull the button. You do know that you can let go of the button after you start moving backwards?

I had no problem jumping the seat activated pto on my cut when I added the backhoe. Technically or emotionally /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[RandyK]

On my GT245 it was under the fender in the back, when you operate the reverse, the linkage hits a pressure switch. There is an adjustment for that switch. You can move the switch and make it work in reverse if you only press the pedal slightly, or you can take the bolt off and flip the switch over so it doesn't engage at all. You just need to weigh the safety issues before doing so.

 

[fgross335_2210]

I removed the reverse interlock on my 335. I had to remove one bolt from the rear hydro linkage. This bolt contacts the safety switch when you press reverse. It is under the seat/deck sheet metal on the RH side of the tractor. I didn't have to do anything with the PTO switch. Hard to find, but it can be removed. I lived with it for one season of mowing/snowblowing before we got a "divorce". I didn't mind it too much when mowing, but it was a major hassle withs snowblowing where you're backing up all the time.

Since it's one bolt I can easily restore the function when I sell the tractor.

My other "reverse" mod was to redrill one of the hydro pedal mounting brackets to hold the pedal up higher - now my reverse speed is faster than before and more on par with the older "pre-RIO" 345 I had.

 

[JD2210MAN]

This is all good information. It is actually my neighbor's 345 and I hear him cursing it all the time. He came over the other day asking me to do this for him and I warned him about the lawsuit aspect after I make the mod (as one of you TBN members reminded me of) and he said he knows. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I will try to get out there this weekend and see if it is going to be easier to remove the switch on the hydro trans or just jumper the switch on the dash. Both are great ideas and easy to do.

Why did Deere ever do this? I have never chopped anybody up when I mowed with my craftsman, nor have I with my 2210 (much taller and harder to see) which also does not have this crazy "safety" feature. I guess thinking back to Buisness Law in college... it only takes one fool and a lawsuit to create the need for a warning sticker and in this case.. an anoying "safety" feature. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[johndeere2210]

From a liability standpoint, when ever a mower comes into our shop with any switch disabled, it has to be functioning when it leaves the shop. This includes that annoying plastic grass windrowing contraption on the discharge side of the mower deck. If the mower comes in with out the chute, it has to have one before it leaves the shop. This is according to our insurance company. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[creeper]

No problems with that at Dealers in this area.

 

[sgoldste01]

I also solved this "safety feature" problem by removing the RIO switch from the rear of my GT245.

I was surprised that I had to actually remove it. The switch's mounting location is adjustable so that you can control how hard you must press the reverse pedal before it cuts off the PTO. I figured that if I move the switch into its lowest position, it would't kill the PTO at all. Wrong. The only way to completely remove this feature was to remove the switch altogether, and then install a jumper in the empty connector.

 

[jd canada]

i just use a clothes pin .pull the rio up like you are backing up and the clothes pin fits perfectly allowing u to use the inplement in reverse.then you are done take the clothes pin out and everything is back to normal.you do what you want .i am telling anyone to do this .... this is what i do thats all

 

[patericson]

I have a John deere 345 there is no reverse until the tractor warms up, forward works just fine. I did change the trans fluid an filter. I am still having the same problem.

 

[hizoot]

You should start a different thread as your question being lost in another topic may not be answered....and it takes the originals posters question off topic. BTW,welcome to TBN!

 

[edplank]

I have a John Deere 160 and the wiring for the pto is bad and I need a diagram for the wiring. I would like to find the diagram some place so I could fix the problem the switch keeps shorting out.

 

[edplank]

i don't really want to disable the switch

 

[edplank]

i would like the diagram for the wiring

 

[beenthere]

:welcome:

Start a new thread under the Deere Lawn and Garden Tractor board with JD 160 wiring diagram in the subject line.
You will be much more likely to attract the attention of someone who can give you that help, rather than under this subject and board.

Welcome to the forum. You will find some help shortly, I'm sure.