yooperdave
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4710and110TLB
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The l48 is bigger but I guarantee that the deere will equal the work of the kub. The fit/finish on the 110 is like comparing a ferrari enzo to a geo metro. The deere was built for this the subframe is part of the tractor, etc. The kub just look like there regular old run of the mill CUT with a backhoe on it. As far as price diff there is little to none. I paid 38000 with every option in the book and extra buckets and all the skid plates and guard you can buy. The same l48 will cost equally as much and again it is a cheap looking version. My 2 cents /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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"The fit/finish on the 110 is like comparing a ferrari enzo to a geo metro. The deere was built for this the subframe is part of the tractor, etc. The kub just look like there regular old run of the mill CUT with a backhoe on it."
You mean Ferrari doesn't come with a real fuel gauge either? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Perhaps you need to actually get on your back and get underneath. This will clue you in to two things immediately. The first being the L48 has a very heavy subframe just like the brochure shows. It runs from the front to the back. Second, you were smart to get the body armour on the 110, one rock or other object and you may destroy all or some of the plethora of hydraulic lines. That in my opinion should not be an option, it should be built into the tractor.
It still doesn't take away from it being a tractor for Dave to consider if he desires a TLB, it is a very worthy competitor. The loader and hoe are well designed, in fact, I think the tractor is designed around them. The L48 on the otherhand excels with it's strong and smooth HST. Specs for the two are similar enough not to be much of an issue with perhaps the hoe reach on the L48 being longer.
You mean Ferrari doesn't come with a real fuel gauge either? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Perhaps you need to actually get on your back and get underneath. This will clue you in to two things immediately. The first being the L48 has a very heavy subframe just like the brochure shows. It runs from the front to the back. Second, you were smart to get the body armour on the 110, one rock or other object and you may destroy all or some of the plethora of hydraulic lines. That in my opinion should not be an option, it should be built into the tractor.
It still doesn't take away from it being a tractor for Dave to consider if he desires a TLB, it is a very worthy competitor. The loader and hoe are well designed, in fact, I think the tractor is designed around them. The L48 on the otherhand excels with it's strong and smooth HST. Specs for the two are similar enough not to be much of an issue with perhaps the hoe reach on the L48 being longer.
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Ok maybe the Enzo to metro compraison is a little far. But really I feel the there are problems minor problems with both units. I choose the deere because loyalty and I like the way it looks compared to the kubota it is a peice of equipiment which would easily be found on a construction site. It also a few options that the KUB doesn't. The extra foot of reach and depth is rather insignificant. Like I said the deere will equal the kub in work. The Kub has a little stronger loader but I have never been able to fill the bucket so full as to not be able to lift it /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif. The subframe on the deere is all part of the main frame it doesn't set way below the tractor like when you put a backhoe on a CUT. The Kub's does hang down. For what I do that woulb be a problem which is why I bought the skid plate for the underside. The deere also can get three remotes out the back of the tractor so I can use my 6 way angle blade the Kub doesn't offer that. Again that is just my two cents....... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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Dang, wheres the picture file when I need it. The Kubota L48 I had had a factory 3 remote (6 quickcouplers) mounted to a bracket off the rear. It was out of the way so the hoe could still be mounted with no issues /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. The stinkin loader on my L48 was so strong it bent the bucket without trying. I did not have the HD bucket but even the standard bucket is comparable to many of Kubota and others HD bucket. I agree though about the loader strengths, a few more pounds here or there are not that important, you just need to learn how to work it. As far as hoes, you can never have to much reach. With every extra foot, you also have to consider how much it adversely affects the power specs. Both tractors work very well and no question, the Deeres is modeled after the larger JD's. The design is very good.
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I have been watching this thread for a while. Good points have been made. Some of them are subjective so it is hard and of no value to argue them.
I do like the JD110 and I hope it proves itself as a reliable machine. The sloped hood and excellent valve controls are a plus.
I still went with the L48 because of it's specs and reach. I wish it had a sloped hood. I hear the new L35 is going to be a big upgrade with sloped hood and better controls and maybe even a third pump for the back hoe?
My L48 has about 12" of ground clearance and has not been any issue on muddy sites and sand holes. I don't know the JD110 clearance?
The JD has a bit faster loader speeds? It is so close that either choice is a good one. I was so tempted to get the JD but really wanted the extra foot of reach and 700pounds of bucket tear out power. I also liked the rotational seat better than the flip over one.
This is one thing I am sure of- if you do not need to remove the loader arms to do most of your work then the JD110, L48, L35, L21 are designed for harder service and still pack great tractor function. I believe if you want a TLB, one of these is a better, tougher and more compact unit than a CUT with add ons.
I put my helmet on to take the heavy shots that may come.
I do like the JD110 and I hope it proves itself as a reliable machine. The sloped hood and excellent valve controls are a plus.
I still went with the L48 because of it's specs and reach. I wish it had a sloped hood. I hear the new L35 is going to be a big upgrade with sloped hood and better controls and maybe even a third pump for the back hoe?
My L48 has about 12" of ground clearance and has not been any issue on muddy sites and sand holes. I don't know the JD110 clearance?
The JD has a bit faster loader speeds? It is so close that either choice is a good one. I was so tempted to get the JD but really wanted the extra foot of reach and 700pounds of bucket tear out power. I also liked the rotational seat better than the flip over one.
This is one thing I am sure of- if you do not need to remove the loader arms to do most of your work then the JD110, L48, L35, L21 are designed for harder service and still pack great tractor function. I believe if you want a TLB, one of these is a better, tougher and more compact unit than a CUT with add ons.
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No question Gray, the integral loaders are better in terms of eliminating play that will inevitably develop at the attachment points. I think the JD 110 and Kubota L48 both have their advantages.
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I have found it is just easier on my 4710 to take the bucket off rather than try to unhook the loader anyway. Once it sells I plan on doing the same with the 110. Again I am saying the l48 doesn't do its designated task I am simply saying the deere just looks more professoinally built. Since the weight difference is only like 120 or 170 lbs I would say the deere has more metal in it since it is smaller than the l48. I know the extra engine size and little bit bigger hoe and metal hood fenders etc. These things don't make the machine any stronger. That is why I think the deere is probably (note probably) built slightly heavier than the L48 is.
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I too will put on my crash helmet and wait for the onslaught of comments which my presented comments will certainly bring. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
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I think the 110 is a great machine, fast and extremely smooth hydraulics, this is not to say the L48 is not great. I know a couple guys that have the Kub and love it, wouldn't trade it for the world. The biggest things that led me to the Deere (since the operating specs are soooooo close between the two) were really matters of personal preference, such as the two individual hydro pedals compared to the Kub's heel toe setup, the creep-to-reposition feature on the 110 is bar none the BEST feature ever to be installed on a TLB,the 110 is a bit narrower, and the most personal preference, the thing looks 10 times better than the Kub, but looks aint everything!
Things that could and should be better on the 110. First on the list (as RaT stated earlier) there is no way that a skid plate should be an option, just make it part of the machine, when checking the "fuel gauge" I often found myself making sure I wasn't on my lawn tractor, because I'm pretty sure that is where the gauge came from, which is so un-Deere like, especially with the sweet gauge cluster on the instument panel, install a horn as standard equipment, and I think the last thing is the seat, well two things about the seat, make it so when it rains out it doesn't suck up water like a sponge and continuously make that "squish" noise every time you jump on, the second thing, the Kub really has the better set up with the swivel seat, simpiler and just plain better than the flip design os the 110.
Things that could and should be better on the 110. First on the list (as RaT stated earlier) there is no way that a skid plate should be an option, just make it part of the machine, when checking the "fuel gauge" I often found myself making sure I wasn't on my lawn tractor, because I'm pretty sure that is where the gauge came from, which is so un-Deere like, especially with the sweet gauge cluster on the instument panel, install a horn as standard equipment, and I think the last thing is the seat, well two things about the seat, make it so when it rains out it doesn't suck up water like a sponge and continuously make that "squish" noise every time you jump on, the second thing, the Kub really has the better set up with the swivel seat, simpiler and just plain better than the flip design os the 110.