JD 410 front axle weight

[Old410]

I have recently purchased my first backhoe for use around my home. It is a 1979 John Deere 410 in what I think is fair shape for the age. Typical problems such as zerks that won't take grease, broken window latches, missing window hold open stops, dangling wiring, and misc hyd leaks. I purchased an operators manual and Army service manual CD. I am wondering if the front axle weight is really required?

 

[boggen]

front axle weight = how much of a load you put into the FEL (front end loader), after x amount of weight you could damage the front axle.
as your front axle weight goes up, the higher the PSI you want in the front tires, so you do not run the front tires flat and then run off the tire off the rim.

but the way you ask your question, it sounds like there is actual cast iron weight on the front axles? i suppose if FEL, came off tractor, you would want some sort of front weight to balance out tractor so you do not do a wheelie constantly with backhoe on. more so when backhoe gets used and needing counter balance weight on the front. but the FEL with bucket on should be enough counter weight. or less something unique for the tractor ? though for a TLB (tractor loader backhoe) having a FEL on generally is FEL and backhoe on at all times, and not designed for FEL or backhoe to not come off or less needing a major repair done on the tractor when speaking industrial equipment. agricultural equipment is a different story.

 

[MD83Z]

The backhoe weight causes the tractor to bounce and lift the front fairly quickly.....You will find that it's there to balance it out. Extend the back boom out and the front gets real light....You will see.

 

[Old410]

front axle weight = how much of a load you put into the FEL (front end loader), after x amount of weight you could damage the front axle.
as your front axle weight goes up, the higher the PSI you want in the front tires, so you do not run the front tires flat and then run off the tire off the rim.

but the way you ask your question, it sounds like there is actual cast iron weight on the front axles? i suppose if FEL, came off tractor, you would want some sort of front weight to balance out tractor so you do not do a wheelie constantly with backhoe on. more so when backhoe gets used and needing counter balance weight on the front. but the FEL with bucket on should be enough counter weight. or less something unique for the tractor ? though for a TLB (tractor loader backhoe) having a FEL on generally is FEL and backhoe on at all times, and not designed for FEL or backhoe to not come off or less needing a major repair done on the tractor when speaking industrial equipment. agricultural equipment is a different story.

The 410 is an industrial machine and there is a large cast iron weight bolted to the front axle. Thanks for the input.

 

[Old410]

Thanks for the input, I have been fixing things and have not been operating the machine yet. Just trying to operate the fuel shut off to change the fuel filter is a pain due to the location of the front axle weight. I am sure that your right about the stability of the machine or they would not have put the weight there in the first place. Nice to hear from a 410 owner.

 

[Piston]

I also own a 410, and even with the front axle weight I can feel it get very light when going up a slight incline and I have my 3' backhoe bucket hanging off the back.

I've considered adding some weight to the FEL bucket (maybe weld a couple hundred lbs of steel on it) just to give me some more weight up forward. I have pretty hilly terrain so this may not be too important depending on your topography.

 

[Old410]

Thanks for the feedback. I think that I will keep the weight on. It is really great to benefit from other pepole experience.