JD 2210 Glow Plugs

Pkugler · Jun 11, 2005

Does the 2210 have them? If so how are they activated? JD dealer didnt seen to know know much about the machine when I was looking at it. Also if plugs how well do they work in -20+. My other dis. I have a 110 volt plug I just plug 20 min before use and Im good, or i add so de-jell. The dealer mentioned kerosene but was unsure of the ratio.

I know its summer, but will help me decide. Upstae NY winters are horrid.
Pat

JDFANATIC · Jun 11, 2005

This is real simple. It's just amazing how Deere has and continues to leave this out of their manuals. Put the tractor in gear (any range) and turn on the key to full start. The lights on the gauges will come on and there will be a click where you can see power is being drained. After 0 to 20 seconds, put the tractor into neutral and then start it. BTW, the same thing can be accomplished by engaging the PTO instead of putting it into gear.

WV_Cavalier · Jun 13, 2005

I can't believe they haven't updated their manuals, yet! A little bit more info: I've found that, during the summer, you only need to follow JDFANATIC's directions for 1-2 seconds, at most. Here, where our winters aren't at all bad, I never had to hold the key for more than 5 seconds. So, you can probably just experiment as temps get colder.

It's a great tractor -- enjoy!
John

Hambone · Jun 13, 2005

When really cold you can cycle the key switch to aid in starting. I have had to do that when very cold, but never failed to start. That was in single digit temperatures.
Yes, you will need fuel additive in winter if it gets very cold. I put it in anytime it will be below 10 degree's. I would not recommend kerosene though. Use a product specific to what you need, there are many good ones.

JDFANATIC · Jun 13, 2005

Hambone,

I'm curious. What do you mean by cycling the ignition switch?

prosperity · Jun 13, 2005

Actually what happens is this - Deere kind of "dumbed down" the function of the glow plugs.
Without doing any of the above, when you crank your engine, the glow plugs heat as you are cranking.
Most tractors you have to either turn the key backward to heat the plugs before starting, or there is a spot between the "on" and "start" parts of the switch (or sometimes a glow plug indicator light when the switch is "on"). Just cranking the engine, even in cold temps, will start the tractor. It will crank over quite a few times, and will smoke pretty good when it first fires.
By doing what the folks above said, you are forcing the glow plugs to warm before the engine cranks. This really is a preferred method as you aren't dumping fuel into the cylinders while it cranks away waiting for the glow plugs to get the cylinder hot enough to fire.
"Cycling the ignition switch" - you can either put the tractor in gear, or turn on the PTO. There is a safety mechanism that will prevent the starter from turning the engine over with either of these engaged. What will happen however, is that your glow plugs will still heat the cylinders. Just hold the starter switch on "start" for around 10 seconds - then put the tractor back in neutral or turn off the PTO, then start it. It will fire right up. You only really need to do this in temps under 30F or so. In warmer temps, the glow plugs are not in use anyway.

Hambone · Jun 14, 2005

<font color="red">I'm curious. What do you mean by cycling the ignition switch? </font>

Sometimes when very cold, you can turn the key to start as stated below untill clicks, then turn off key, go back to start until clicks again. Then put in neutral and start.

megotatractor · Jun 14, 2005

I understood that the afformentioned "click" meant the glow plugs fire for about five seconds when you turn the key- with either the gear or pto in- then they "click" off and you have to "cycle" again turning the key off then to start till the plugs click off again... I'll have to try just holding the key but I thought the plugs only glow a couple of seconds causing the dash light to dim... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Wom · Jun 15, 2005

It works exactly as "Prosperity" described. The initial click when the key is turned on is the fuel relay and solenoid being activated. I added a light that indicates when the plugs are energized and a momentary contact switch to operate them without going through the other procedure. The only time the light will come on normally is when the key is actually in the start position. I have a 4110, but it works the same way.