Is this a self tapping drain plug?

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billboe

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Kioti DK45SC w/ Backhoe
i've had an oil leak at one of the plugs since the dealer changed my oil last fall. i finally got around to changing the oil myself and wanted to fix the leak. anyway, below are the two plugs and i'm guessing the one on the right (the one that was leaking) is already a self tapping plug... is that right?

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also note the metal threads that came off with the plug (in front of the plug).

for kicks, below are the tops of the plugs...

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thanks!
 
   / Is this a self tapping drain plug?
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hmmmm... the "img" tags are not working for me?!?! the url pointed to my google photos (with the appropriate permissions).

i'll try to attach the photos...


kioti oil plugs top.jpg

kioti oil plugs.jpg
 
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oh great... i purchased a replacement plug, crawled under the tractor, wiped the old oil from the pan ready to installed the plug and discover 2 cracks in the pan (see below). fun fun fun...

kioti cracked oil pan.jpg


i have a call into the dealer that changed the oil last year.
 
   / Is this a self tapping drain plug? #4  
It doesn't look like it's a pipe thread taper (if it was I would say they over tightened it). I guess it's still possible but less likely. Is it possible something while you were operating it? Do you see anything that makes it look like it was a bad casting? That does suck as I don't think fixing it in place is an option.
 
   / Is this a self tapping drain plug? #5  
My guess would be that it's a cast aluminium pan, and the original steel plug on the left had taken some threads out, so they used a universal self tapping plug that's a bit oversize (calipers can confirm) and it cracked the boss.
If that was a dealer job, they should stand behind it and replace or repair the pan. Depending on how far the cracks go, it might be cheaper to replace due to the labor involved.
 
   / Is this a self tapping drain plug? #6  
Possible someone used an impact to install the plug. ???
 
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i can't imagine operating the tractor could have caused the cracks. they are pretty specific and the loader frame protects the plugs. also, googling suggests that this is pretty common on the DK45 (strip plug, use oversized plug to fix it, and crack the aluminum pan screwing it in).

it seems to me that the only possibility is the dealer**. the service manager did say there was a special order plug on the invoice, so, they certainly knew something was up. anyway, he said he would look into it and i just hope he does the right thing.


** or, if it wasn't the dealer, it was already cracked when they got it and they either missed/ignored it or just didn't say anything. both of which are not ideal...
 
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Take pictures of pan and drain plug and invoice back to dealer as ask if it's their usual shoddy work and if the are willing to make it right....

Dale
 
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the service manager just called and is offering a $100 discount. my opinion is "big whoop"... he said that is all the owner would do. so, i guess i need to talk to the owner...

would this be something kioti corporate could do something about?
 
   / Is this a self tapping drain plug? #10  
the service manager just called and is offering a $100 discount. my opinion is "big whoop"... he said that is all the owner would do. so, i guess i need to talk to the owner...

would this be something kioti corporate could do something about?

Can't hurt to inquire, but doubt is will go anywhere as it is something dealer/service dept did...

Dale
 

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