Is it just me or has Kioti products really taken off?

   / Is it just me or has Kioti products really taken off? #1  

coobie

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Kubota RTV 1100c, JD 740,Kioti DK 40 with KL401 loader .
IMHO kioti tractors have really made a impact on the market place and now the new RTV/UTV will make its way into the market place.I hope new Kioti RTV/UTV has the same impact as the Kubota RTV 900/1100 has had.These are good times for the consumer.coobie
 
   / Is it just me or has Kioti products really taken off? #2  
Seems like more and more people know who Kioti is and what its about.

The more dealers and owners the better.

I see lots of posts regarding the value of the machines as compared with the competition.

Joel
 
   / Is it just me or has Kioti products really taken off? #3  
Well of course! I just bought one,hate doing things like that cause everybody follows.

3,000 or so,changes a lot o minds,don't it.
 
   / Is it just me or has Kioti products really taken off? #4  
I agree that Kioti's business model in the CUT market seems to be working well. They don't exactly lead in technology but they have mastered the art of building a very reliable well spec'd tractor and selling it at a price that JD and Kubota cannot match. The Kioti tractors are a tad less techno advanced but for most tractor buyers that doesn't matter. What they have demonstrated is that they have designed well thought out tractors, are responsive to customer wants (HST, independent PTO, good ergonomics, fully featured, great FELs, best warranty), that they have very good quality manufacturing and then they go and sell them for thousands less than generally equivalent green and other shade of orange tractors. Kioti's new DK90 actually is bigger than anything Kubota makes and much better priced than any fully featured 90+hp JD or NH. I know NH has a bigger market share and broader range but I wonder how long it will be before Kioti catches the third of the big three at least in the head to head market for equivalent models. The CK and new DK lineups are hard for any of the big 3 to match for value and as both the manufacturing quality and customer experience seem to be excellent it won't be long before even more value oriented buyers are comfortable joining the pack. JD and Kubota could put the hurt on Kioti by dropping their prices but there seems to be little evidence that is happening. The big three haven't even bothered to match Kioti's 4 year warranty. Mahindra seems to be the other main competition for Kioti but the red line up just doesn't seem quite as well thought out even though the Mahindra tractors are excellent. Not quite up with Kioti on ergonomics or features.

Other than a few rough edges with customer service/support, I think Kioti's major issue right now is their dealer network. They are working on it and have weeded out some of the smaller dealers but there are still not as many well established dealerships as you might like. No question in my mind that they have a long way to go before they catch the big three in that category.

Kioti also needs a SCUT like the BX to get entry level exburb buyers a choice of machine that is just a step up from a big box riding mower. The CK20 is quite a big jump for a first time tractor buyer and is really a bit big for someone with less than an acre or so who wants to do their own landscaping etc. The BX23/24/25 are quite brilliant in that arena and Kioti doesn't have anything to compete. It's interesting that they decided to bring out the big DK90 and the UTV before attending to the "big lawnmower" segment.

I think the analogy to Hyundai's success in building their share of the car market at the expense of the Japanese and US automakers is quite relevant. Enter with low cost, develop a reputation for reliability and value with successive generations of vehicles and then suddenly one day you are a player. Hyundai just won car of the year with their newest offering. Hyundai went from questionable to mainstream in just a few years so it is not hard to imagine Kioti following that path.
 
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I agree, a KIOTI in the sub compact line would be interesting.
 
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Kioti's new DK90 actually is bigger than anything Kubota makes and much better priced than any fully featured 90+hp JD or NH.

At the National Farm Machinery Show, I saw Kubota's new MX 135, which is complemented by the MX 126, MX 108 and MX 96, so I don't think that particular statement is truly accurate. The rest of your post seems to me to be right on.
 
   / Is it just me or has Kioti products really taken off? #7  
Well of course! I just bought one,hate doing things like that cause everybody follows.

3,000 or so,changes a lot o minds,don't it.

The price made it possible for me to get the backhoe as well! Good deal, good decision. Except for the loader issue..
 
   / Is it just me or has Kioti products really taken off? #8  
i wanted to at least take a look at a Kioti in the 55/65hp range before i bought but the nearest(and ONLY dealer in SC for that matter) is 81 miles from me. they do seem like solid tractors, and hopefully they'll keep getting more successful. competition can only bring out the best in the others, so it's a win win for the customer.
 
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At the National Farm Machinery Show, I saw Kubota's new MX 135, which is complemented by the MX 126, MX 108 and MX 96, so I don't think that particular statement is truly accurate. The rest of your post seems to me to be right on.

I stand corrected.
 
   / Is it just me or has Kioti products really taken off? #10  
They have me taking a serios look. I think they have great lookin, well laid out platform and pratical technology. If I get some older tractors of mine sold the next one may be a Kioti. It sits very well and you can see the draw bar easliy form the seat. It is amazing how many tractors that you have to stretch your neck to hitch up anything.
 

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