Ignition problem

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bayoublue

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NH TC 35 D
I've got a TC35D, 2004 model...when I turn the ignition key it clicks, then I have to turn it several times to finally start it. The glow plug indicator lights up correctly then goes off. I have plenty of battery power and I'm thinking about replacing the ignition. Any suggestions?
 
   / Ignition problem #2  
I've got a TC35D, 2004 model...when I turn the ignition key it clicks, then I have to turn it several times to finally start it. The glow plug indicator lights up correctly then goes off. I have plenty of battery power and I'm thinking about replacing the ignition. Any suggestions?

Isn't there a timer on the starting aid for your tractor? I think it's supposed to go off to help with glow plug life. The clicking may be due to dirty, corroded, or loose battery terminals, corroded starter cables, or it could be a problm with the starter or low battery voltage. Clean them up and make sure they are tight and check your ground while you are at. Don't replace the switch until you make sure the rest of the system is good.
 
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Jerry
Thanks for your post. When I return to my property and my tractor next weekend which is about an hour's drive away I'll clean the terminals, check the ground and the battery. I appriciate the advice.
 
   / Ignition problem #4  
I had problems like this about 2 years ago with a CaseIH DX33. Replaced the battery but that did not work. Do a search here for DX33 starting problems. I installed the relay others suggested and have not had any more problems.
 
   / Ignition problem #5  
Hi Blue,

I'm not sure exactly how yours is setup, but if not on your ToDo list already, plan on checking/cleaning all the connections in the starting circuit.

I noticed on my 3930 the other day a funny start, it usually snaps right over in this weather. I can see now that there is a control terminal on the starter solenoid that I need to service.

You don't have winter down your way, but depending on how close you are to the coast, that good old salt air does give electrical connections a rough time.

The heavy/large terminal connections (ex. battery) are important, but sometimes a small control connection is the culprit.

Relays do go eventually, but sometimes just replacing a component is enough to clean the troublesome control connection - this is one reason I don't throw away an old relay immediately, as it still may be fine.

(People use the same approach to getting an old computer running again - simply take all the connectors apart and re-seating 'em, often brings an old motherboard back up.)

You may have a favourite material in mind already, but after you take apart and clean up the connections, use something grease like to coat the terminals - prevents future oxidization. I use different basic greases, specialty greases/sprays are available, or you can use Vaseline.

Rgds, Dave.
 
   / Ignition problem #6  
I've got a TC35D, 2004 model...when I turn the ignition key it clicks, then I have to turn it several times to finally start it. The glow plug indicator lights up correctly then goes off. I have plenty of battery power and I'm thinking about replacing the ignition. Any suggestions?

When you find the price of a new starter, you may change your mind. I'd suggest jumping the starter solenoid terminal directly to the big positive 12 VDC lead on the starter. If the starter works, then you may be able to fix your problem with a new start relay. When the ignition system gets older, the contact resistance of the start relay can provide just enough voltage drop that the solenoid only clicks instead of pulling in fully. Repeated attempts will finally result in a good contact and starting. It's a problem with the starting circuit rather than the starter itself.

There are several starting problems with the circuitry on your tractor and this is just one of them. I recommend just putting up with the clicking if it eventually starts. When it finally gets where it will not start at all, then you'll have to take some action. From what I've heard, people who replace their starters are disappointed to find out that the problem comes back.

You can also do the starter circuit modification detailed here in these forums, but my tractor fails to start from time-to-time, and after about 4 or 5 trys it fires off normally.
 
   / Ignition problem #7  
As Jinman said, jump straight from the battery to the starter to test it, but also make sure the ground is good all the way from the battery post to the starter.
 
   / Ignition problem #8  
I'm not sure if you have the same ignition switch as my tractor but my original switch had a plastic housing and I had the same kind of problem sometimes it would start sometimes it wouldn't. I checked all the normal things and finally took the cowling off to check the switch connections and found that my ignition switch was melting and had been for a while. I bought a heavy duty metal housing ignition switch at the parts store for about $50 less than a factory ignition switch and have had no issues going on I think 4+ years.
 
   / Ignition problem #9  
I forgot to mention I have a 03 TC40D.
 
   / Ignition problem #10  
I have TC33D and needed to replace my ignition switch because it melted as cardenharry indicated happened to him. I also installed the relay cardenharry mentioned and have had no problems since.
 

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