Idle time vs wear and tear on starter

[fitter21]

Hi all,
Not to go all call in talk show on you guys but long time reader, first time poster.
First I want to thank all of you. With many hours of research and reading ( mostly on here) I am a proud owner of 2020 XR 4150h TLB 3rd function and grapple. Around 11 hours on it and I LOVE IT. Couldn稚 be happier.
My question is which practice is better letting it idle during implement changes and other tasks that may take a few minutes. Depending on what it was doing it has to idle down before shut down anyway so...This is my first tractor with the DPF and guess I知 worried about clogging with low engine speed, but also see off and on as extra wear on starter. I assume it would just regenerate earlier than the posted 50 hrs.
Just a few quick things I知 planning for it.
I have material to fabricate the stabilizer feet for the back hoe and also a skid plate for the valve block and lines that are just hanging right out in the open under the platform on right side. I can just picture a stick or something jamming up into that and bending or breaking a line. I will figure out how to post pictures of the projects in the appropriate forum when I do them. Again thank you all justin

 

[4570Man]

For implement changes I leave the tractor running because you’ll be moving it and using the hydraulics. For other task there’s a lot more consideration than starter wear. Being able to talk to your helper is a prime reason to cut it off.

 

[RickB]

Starters are cheaper than DPFs. And probably considerably more durable.

 

[Wagtail]

G'day Mate and welcome to TBN from Downunder.

Idling is fine.

Enjoy the site... from wherever in the world you're from.

 

[Bluesteel]

Once I start mine I normally let it idle if I'm off of it doing something. It idles when I attach an implement except if I'm hooking up a PTO shaft. I shut it down when I hook them up. The way I look at it the PTO switch is a device that could potentially fail.

 

[Diggin It]

I do .... both. All about what and how long. As mentioned, changing implements often means moving hydraulics. While mounting or dismounting the 800 pound Preying Mantis (backhoe), I have to shut'er down to relieve pressure to connect hoses though.

I burned a few piles of brush a couple of weeks back. Found it was easier to leave the beast running while hopping off to do some things. Mine doesn't have EPA intrusion systems though.

 

[RoyJackson]

For the most part, I leave my 4520 idling for up to 10 minutes or so....in cold weather, I'll let it idle longer. However, I don't idle at minimum RPM...normally at 1500 RPM.
I do shut it down if I have to connect a PTO driveshaft. I might be paranoid, but I want no chance of an accidental PTO engagement.

 

[aczlan]

For the most part, I leave my 4520 idling for up to 10 minutes or so....in cold weather, I'll let it idle longer. However, I don't idle at minimum RPM...normally at 1500 RPM.
I do shut it down if I have to connect a PTO driveshaft. I might be paranoid, but I want no chance of an accidental PTO engagement.

Same here.

Aaron Z

 

[RalphVa]

Idle more in the winter just to get it warmed up more.

Otherwise, off the tractor and the tractor gets turned off.

Starter only takes about 1/2 turn of the crankshaft to restart. Not much wear.

Same for cars/pickup at long lights or long stop for something, more than about 10 seconds. Many car/pickups are designed now to auto shut off in such situations.

Ralph

 

[BrkMstr]

Talk with your service manager, DPF is a different animal - my Kubota (non DPF) I let idle except for PTO mount / dismount - no issues in ten years - the new Kioti when I idle it, it is at 1500+ - and only for a reasonable time / job requires - you will not hurt it at 1500 and a lot easier than replacing a DPF - anything under 1500 I would not let it stand, I agree that the starter is a lot stronger than the DPF and much easier and less costly to replace.....