Hydraulic Fluid

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JRS

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Tucson, Arizona
Tractor
Ford 3550 Industrial / 1937 John Deere Model B/ 4310 John Deere
I have a old Ford 3550 about 1978 vintage. I have been using the New Holland 134 as the hydraulic fluid and I am wondering if I can use another hydraulic fluid that is cheaper. It has a few leaks so I do go through some fluid. I know I know just fix the leaks but I do not want to tie up a bunch of money into this tractor. O'reilly Auto Parts have different fluids on sale so which one should I use?
They have the 303 tractor fluid, the AW-32, AW-46, AW-68 and the J-20C premium universal fluid. What are the differences between the fluids and which one should I use.
Thanks in advance, John
 
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Are you sure it doesn't use motor oil?

I have had several tractors that used 10W-30 for the hydraulic system.
 
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forget the aw series fluids. they are essentially jack oils.

any sump that your machine has that is calling for m2c134d oil menas it wants a utf oil.

with the age of that machine.. just about any utf you can find that states it meets m2c134 spec should be fine.

note. in some places you can find extroidinarily cheap utf oil.. like accell... like 19$ per 5g and it says it meets m2c134 standards for LUBE.. while it DOES , it does not meet the viscosity standards.. meaning in cold cold weather the oil gets thick.

for summer use.. or us southerners.. it's fine in an old tractor.

for a cold area, jump up to the 30-50$ utf oils and you will be fine.

walmart and tractor supply, rural king and napa and car quest all carry one.. usually in the 30-35$ range. tsc just had some 6g pails for 35$ a while back. etc. I'd avoid the 19$ pails.. etc.
 
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I have a KTE 230 4WD tractor that I bought and it has no manuals with it and I need to know what kind and how much, we,re the hydraulic fluid goes.
 
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good luck. hopefully someone with one can chime in.

failing that. i'd drain it and refill to whatever dipstick or fill check level plug it had, buying as I went. and using a good utf / utd oil. those carry sooo many specs, hard to miss with them.

hope you get the specific info you seek.
 
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Doing some searching online, the Kukje tractor "brand" in the US is Branson....as of 2009 or so it is.

Here is the Korean Link: ??忻 ?????? 忻??
On that page is a button on the top right, that says "ENGLISH" and when you click on it, it goes to the Branson Tractors. I would suggest contacting Branson w/ your Kukje model and serial number and asking for a PDF owners manual. There might be a compatible/compatible Branson model also. Worth a try.....

Looking here: Kukje - Tractor & Construction Plant Wiki - The classic vehicle and machinery wiki
It looks like Kukje built copies of Yanmar starting 1980. I don't know if your tractor is a Yanmar copy, but if it is......




But, most tractors of the 1970's and later use combined oil sumps....as in the transmission oil is also the hydraulic system oil. Deere & Ford did this.



When it comes to universal hydraulic/transmission fluid, I would go w/ the medium priced oil. I have heard of stories of the "cheapest" not having the correct additives for seals. A local farmer told me a neighbor bought the cheap, cheap, cheap stuff since his tractor leaked so much. When he finally got the leak(s) fixed, other issues came up since he was using such cheap oil for so long.....just a story worth passing. If it were I, I'd get the mid priced stuff for two times, the the less expensive oil once,then back to the mid price....but that is me.

As Soundguy said, just about every auto parts place has a brand.... Walmart, Costco.


I downloaded a Branson manual just to look (dated 2011). Under hydraulic, it listed Branson Origin Oil/Texaco TDH oil, 1893. When I searched online for Texaco THD oil, 1893, it came up with it a pdf that said this:
Texaco TDH oils are high quality, multifunctional fluids, specially formulated for use in transmissions, final drives, wet brakes, and hydraulic systems of tractors and other equipment employing a common fluid, reservoir.
Texaco TDH oils meet the needs of modern tractors for a combination lubricant. They perform many functions, such as lubrication of the transmission and final drive, and serve as hydraulic fluids to operate power steering units, brakes, implements, and attachments. Furthermore, Texaco TDH oils eliminate brake "chatter" and excessive brake facing wear, assure smooth operation of clutch packs and wet brakes, provide excellent shifting action, provide superior rust and corrosion protection for vital parts, minimize leakage because of good compatibility with seals, O-rings, and packing materials. They prevent sludge and varnish formation, protect metal surfaces against scuffing and wear, and provide outstanding lubrication for spur, helical, and spiral bevel final drive gears.
Texaco TDH oils are compatible with equipment manufacturers' proprietary fluids and other fluids of this type.

I suggest, if Branson is of no help, to look at pics of Yanmar tractors and see if one looks similar to your tractor. If it does, odds are it's a Yanmar copy and you can just look for a Yanmar manual (or a JD version of the Yanmar).
 
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I use TRactor Supply in my Massey
 
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the cheap cheap utf oils usually have higher viscosity in the cold. that's their main drawback...
 
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I have a KTE 230 4WD tractor that I bought and it has no manuals with it and I need to know what kind and how much, we,re the hydraulic fluid goes.

I have a KTE 230 4wd tractor also. After going to Japan and the Philippines I was able to establish that this tractor is mechanically identical to a Yanmar YM2001D built in 1984. You can get a complete set of Yanmar manuals for the tractor and parts are readily available. They sell the tractor in South Korea as a KTE 230 4wd. Kukje manufactured the drive train for this model for Yanmar. The engine is Yanmar model 3T- 82. The Korean sheet metal is slightly different than the Japanese sheet metal but mechanically they are identical.

Milo
 
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I have a KTE 230 4WD tractor that I bought and it has no manuals with it and I need to know what kind and how much, we,re the hydraulic fluid goes.
Did u find anything on that tractor
 

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