hydraulic electric diverter valve

[K man]

Hi all, I am seriously thinking of getting a 50" Grapple for my CK 30 HST and was wondering what would be best for an extra hydraulic line to the Grapple. I have seen a electronic diverter valve which hooks into the FEL lines and is operated by a control switch on the Joystick and a bit costly or a diverter that would run off the rear attachment lever. Any input from experienced users would be great.

Gilles

 

[kspring61]

You will probably get several answers on this, from using the rear remote, to an electronic valve, to a diverter.
I installed this
3rd function auxiliary hydraulic kits for all brands of tractors and loaders

Works great and I like the 3rd function switch right on the joystick

 

[Everhard]

Cheapest route is a couple long hydraulic lines hooked to your rear remotes. Downside to that is that if you had something hooked to those remotes you won't be able to use them at the same time. Second downside is it's much nicer pressing a button on the fel lever to operate the grapple vs letting go of the fel lever working the rear remote lever then back to the fel lever etc.

What Kspring61 posted up is a beautiful way to finish it up, potentially nice that you get to use all 3 functions at the same time.

I went with the electrical diverter which is the other common route - a press of the button on the fel lever switches between the bucket control and the grapple control. I love it, works really slick.

I built it up myself - I see you're from Ontario as well - I sourced most of what I needed from Princess Auto. The Hydraulic switch was from there, a bit over $200 for that. (You can find it on sale occasionally) I never did tally up the whole bill but for sure all the hydraulic adapters/fittings you have to buy add up to a surprising amount. (Hydraulic hose itself wasn't so bad! But the fittings...) A wild guess mine worked out close to $600 I think? That includes the grapple I made myself. That's Canadian dollars fyi. The biggest pain in the butt was getting home realising I'd got the wrong hydraulic fitting for something... Having to go back... swap out fittings... That happened more times then I care to admit! At least Princess Auto has no issues with returns. Lol!

E.

 

[K man]

Thanks everhard for the info. Wasn't sure if Princess auto still existed as I lived around the Kingston area before moving up here 15 years ago lol. The electric diverter is probably the best option for me instead of using the up down lever for the back hydraulics which seem to be pretty awkward to use. I had a price quote for the parts from my dealer on the 50" Grapple (1600) and electric diverter ( 550) this does not include installation which should not take more than 1 hour to install. So I think around 2500 for the grapple, diverter, labor and taxes is reasonable. They will come to my home to do the installation.

 

[LD1]

An electronic diverter is ~$200. You will have ~$100 in hoses and fittings. Then all you need is a push button for your joystick. I bought a suregrip controll for $40. Lot of ways to do it cheapest is electrical tape and a button. Have even seen some use shift knobs with a push button like what is used for nitrous.

 

[K man]

That is fine to go cheaper but I am not mechanically or electrically inclined so that options is out of the choices for me. I would rather have it done by a professional this way it guarantees me that it will be done right not mickey mouse job if you know what I mean. I also buy everything new and that is why the dealer can get me all new parts with warranties. That means alot to me. Thanks

 

[Everhard]

You'll be real happy with the grapple and the control on the stick vs rear remote. Since I got mine in operation it's seen a lot of use. I think this year I might make a brush bucket to go with the grapple instead of using the stock bucket. That will make picking up brush and logs easier and allow me to grab even more. Then again I also want a grapple on the backhoe now as well... Hmmmmm lol!

Enjoy! E.

 

[N2DFire]

That is fine to go cheaper but I am not mechanically or electrically inclined so that options is out of the choices for me. I would rather have it done by a professional this way it guarantees me that it will be done right not mickey mouse job if you know what I mean. I also buy everything new and that is why the dealer can get me all new parts with warranties. That means alot to me. Thanks

Don't sell yourself short. It's really not that hard if you break it down in sections. Although I don't know about part cost / availability for you in Canada.

Here's the write-up I did on building our 3rd function on a CK35. (I've already hit the "Learn the hard way" parts for you LOL)

www.tractorbynet.com/forums/customization/358086-kioti-ck-35-3rd-function.html

Best of luck whatever you do.

 

[Apsterbobed]

You'll be real happy with the grapple and the control on the stick vs rear remote. Since I got mine in operation it's seen a lot of use. I think this year I might make a brush bucket to go with the grapple instead of using the stock bucket. That will make picking up brush and logs easier and allow me to grab even more. Then again I also want a grapple on the backhoe now as well... Hmmmmm lol!

Enjoy! E.

I have a brush style grapple and wish that I had just got a tooth bar and a lid for my bucket. It seems like I'm always out back with the wrong attachment, head out to move some brush then I want to clean up the area when done but it's 20 minutes round trip....

 

[newbury]

I have a brush style grapple and wish that I had just got a tooth bar and a lid for my bucket. It seems like I'm always out back with the wrong attachment, head out to move some brush then I want to clean up the area when done but it's 20 minutes round trip....

You could always carry the other attachment on the back.