how to service and use a brush hog

   / how to service and use a brush hog #1  

rcrcomputing

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I'm about to hook this baby up. It's a used John Deere 5' brush hog.
I see where to put oil (I think) but unsure what type of oil to use.
I see 3 grease certs on each end I'll grease.

Anything else to check?
Any tips on hooking it up are welcome as I've never hooked anything up to the back of my tractor other than the backhoe.
 
   / how to service and use a brush hog #2  
What model 'rotary cutter' do you have?

Are you aware of how to check the length of the PTO shaft? On some tractors, different lengths are necessary.

Have you checked the gearbox for oil level? Deere will have the correct oil for the gearbox, if it is needed.

Have you inspected the blades for cracks? They should be replaced if damaged.

Do you know how to adjust the height of the cutter (have a manual)? The tail wheel adjusts the height of the rear of the deck, and the 3pt arms carry the front of the deck and control the height (should be slightly lower than the rear for best cutting).

I'm puzzled by the 3 grease zirks "on each end" that you mentioned. There is one in the tail wheel hub, one on the upright shaft of the rear wheel, and two in the PTO shaft universal joints (at least on mine).

A search of rotary cutters herein will give you a lot of reading and helpful information.
 
   / how to service and use a brush hog
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( What model 'rotary cutter' do you have? )</font>
John Deere 503

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Are you aware of how to check the length of the PTO shaft? On some tractors, different lengths are necessary.)</font>
There are differant lengths? Hmm

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Have you checked the gearbox for oil level? Deere will have the correct oil for the gearbox, if it is needed. )</font>

That's kinda one of my questions, There seems to be a plug on the top and a plug on the side....
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Have you inspected the blades for cracks? They should be replaced if damaged. )</font>

I'm thinking this is easiest done after I hook it up and lift it with the tractor?

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Do you know how to adjust the height of the cutter (have a manual)? The tail wheel adjusts the height of the rear of the deck, and the 3pt arms carry the front of the deck and control the height (should be slightly lower than the rear for best cutting)</font>

I've no clue what to hook up first or how to hook it up. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Nope, and no manual. What's up with tractor mfg's anyhow? In my world, (computers) you can d/l just about any manual. But in this world, 20,000.00 buys you no loyalty from the mfg. They should make them available.

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I'm puzzled by the 3 grease zirks "on each end" that you mentioned. There is one in the tail wheel hub, one on the upright shaft of the rear wheel, and two in the PTO shaft universal joints (at least on mine). )</font>

I think two (in the semi-darkness) were just tit's off the shroud. I didn't see the one at the wheel. Otherwise, there are two at each end of the shaft.


</font><font color="blue" class="small">( A search of rotary cutters herein will give you a lot of reading and helpful information. )</font>

Guess I'm glad I waited, but I'm choppin at the bit here to hook her up and cut some brush!
 
   / how to service and use a brush hog #4  
There seems to be a plug on the top and a plug on the side....

The one on the side is for checking the one on top is for filling. Remove the side plug and if oil runs out or is visable through the hole you are good to go. If it is low add through the top plug. I use gear oil in my old Bush Hog. I hook up the PTO shaft first because I found out the hard way that it is impossible to hook it up any other time.
 
   / how to service and use a brush hog #5  
I've learned that having the cutter on castors makes hook up a WHOLE LOT easier. I bought the castors (little ones with 3 wheels) at TSC and mounted them on a 1by to hold their spacing underneath the skids and put "L" brackets on top to hold it between the skids. First, lower the draft arms fully down. Then you can lift them by hand to where you need them. Loosen the turnbuckles. Then put the left one on (or the one with no heigh/length adjustment) and then the right one. May have to adjust this last one to get it onto the draft arm.

Tighten the turnbuckles. I use tension straps to keep the turnbuckles from turning, rather than those pesky tiny cotter pins that came with them. Adjust the length of the right (or adjustable) draft arm to get the same height of the cutter above ground as the other side.

I can connect the PTO with it connected but need a tension strap to hold the heavy beast up. Give it a tug to and fro to make sure that collar has snapped in place.

Connect top link. Adjust it to get right height in rear about 1/2 to 1" above front. Then reset the tail wheel. Now, throw away the top link and put a chain in there, a little slack.

Ralph
 
   / how to service and use a brush hog #6  
If you've hooked any driven implements to your tractor, you'll already know most of what you need to do.

You should see a push pin or collar (pulls back) on the implement PTO shaft U-joints. These retain the detent balls on the PTO shaft to lock onto the Tractor and implement shafts. Pushing the pin (or rotating or pulling the collar back) releases tension on the detent balls (or whatever is used to lock the PTO shaft in place).

Before you try hooking up, locate and operate these locking devices to get a feel for their use. It's also a lot easier to grease the U-joints with the PTO shaft removed from the implement. I am assuming the PTO shaft is not hooked to the cutter gearbox. If it is, use the locking device (push pin or collar) and remove the shaft.
There is more maintenance I would do to the PTO shaft...splitting it to lubricate the drive shafts, for one thing. If you need to do that, PM me and we can go into more detail.

It's probably 90 weight gear oil in the cutter's gearbox. Look for two plugs on the gear box, one on top and one on the side. There may only be one on the side. Remove the plug (or plugs) and fill the gearbox until the level is at the bottom of the side hole.

I'm not sure about the grease fittings you described. However, it you see a Zerk fitting, it's probably best to grease it.

Connect the PTO shaft to the cutter gearbox shaft first. Then position your tractor as close to where it needs to be for hook up.

Connect the lower links to the cutter first (BTW, after manhandling that cutter, you'll probably want to investigate Pat's Easy Change or something like that).

Then, with the tractor engine OFF and the key in YOUR POCKET, look for the machined groove in the tractor's PTO drive shaft. That groove is what locks the implement PTO shaft in place. Pushing the locking pin (or collar) to release tension on the detents, slip the PTO shaft to the tractor's PTO. Make sure that shaft is fully seated by giving it a good pull back once you've got it locked.
Then, connect the top link. For transport (cutter raised by the 3PH), you want that top link tight. For using the cutter, leave the top link long enough to allow movement so the cutter can follow contours or the area you're cutting.

Now that the cutter is rigged, ensure no one is close by. I do recommend using sound protection of some sort (ear plugs).
Start your tractor and, if not warmed up, let it warm up for a few minutes. With the transmission in neutral, engage the PTO at low (1200) RPM. Keep your foot near the throttle in case you need to "blip" the RPM to prevent stalling.

You'll hear two thumps simultaneously. That's the blades extending out. Let them rotate for about 8 to 10 seconds. Expect some vibration. Then, increase the engine RPM to rated PTO speed. Again, don't be surprised if you feel some vibration.

If you haven't cut the field before, it's probably best to walk it first to find any stumps, ruts, barbed wire or anything else other then brush or grass. If you have a loader, I suggest it be installed. The loader works well as a counterweight for the cutter and, by keeping it low during operation, it'll hit any stumps or bigger rocks before the cutter runs over them.

For that first time, I suggest you cut fairly high. I also strongly suggest you go very slow unless you are absolutely certain there are no obstructions hidden by the brush.

I really enjoy brush cutting. First time I did it, the brush was as tall as the cowl of the tractor...some as tall as the roll bar. It was way too thick to walk through so I operated in 1st gear (under 1 MPH). It took me two working days to clear about three acres since it was so thick. It was also the closest I ever came to rolling the Deere 670 I owned then. I ran over a rut (left side) and a rise on the right. That was a serious pucker time for me.

Be careful...if you've a cell phone, have it with you. My wife insists I only operate the cutter when she's home, and I comply.

Also, depending on how thick the brush is...keep and eye on your temperature gage. You'll probably have to clean the grill fairly often...they do clog up fast when brush cutting anything thick.


"Have you inspected the blades for cracks? They should be replaced if damaged."

If you have a loader on your Kioti, lift the side of the cutter high enough (vertical)and let it roll slightly toward the tractor. If it goes over while you're working on the blades, it'll fall away from you and give you an escape route. The tractor can be fixed...you may too, depending on the injuries. I never get under an implement raised by the 3PH, even with jack stands. I will use air or water to spray the underside (while the unit is raised) to clean it, but I give it fair clearance.
Those cutters go 600 lbs or so..that's enough to crush you.
 
   / how to service and use a brush hog #7  
Here is a link to an owner's manual for some John Deere cutters, not the model you mention, but the information will be similar enough.
LX4,5,6 cutter manual
As for the lube, use 80W90 gear oil. The top plug is the filler and should have a little filter on it. Remove the filter and plug to fill. Open the side plug and pour oil in the top filler plug until you get oil out the side plug. That's as high as you should fill it. Otherwise, you may get too much foaming of the oil, and it won't lubricate properly.
PM me if you have any more questions.
John
 
   / how to service and use a brush hog
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Was gonna print reply's and take them outside with me. Out of ink. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I'll go inspect, grease, etc as instructed.
Special thanks to Roy for explaining in "dummy-proof" terms. I've never hooked up an implement in my life. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Will let you guys know how things go...
 
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Update,,,, the hog was way to full of gear oil. When I popped the plug it all came out. It looked bran new. I think this hog was used two times only by the original owner. I let it all out to the gauge plug. Greased all the fitings. Greased the tractor.

Issues so far.
a zert on the tractor broke off. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
The zerts under the brake and clutch assembles are impossible to get to even with my hand-held gun.
I can't seem to talk the gun into spitting out the old grease tube..
Hmmm, Hopefully I'll get round to hooking up the hog in a bit.
 
   / how to service and use a brush hog #10  
I have the same cutter, and the manual, and will review it for any thing we may have missed that may help you. It's a good cutter, on the light side, so I beefed up the rear edge to be able to back into brush without bending the steel rear and side curtains.

Didn't see anyone cover the possibility of a slip clutch on the PTO shaft just ahead of the gear box, or if you have a shear pin there instead.

If slip clutch, should go through the adjustment routine just in case it is set-up and too tight to function (this will make sure you don't twist the PTO shaft or the PTO drive in the tractor.
If shear pin, note where it is and plan on having a spare or two, with the wrenches to change out the old sheared pin for a new one.

The PTO shaft, when connected to the tractor, should have room to slide out and in, without binding. If cut off too short, then it will drop off and/or not have enough length to keep from drooping in the middle.
If too long, it may bind when you raise the cutter, and cause damage to either end of the PTO shaft connections or internally in the gears (cutter or tractor).


You have been given a lot of good information, and just follow your common sense as to what should fit to what, and how to operate it.
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