How To Measure Diesel RPM

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zzvyb6

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I have a 3 cyl JD diesel mower with a Yanmar motor. Engine (hence blade) speed seems a little low. There is no tachometer on this machine. So how would I go about measing the engine rpm at full throttle? I see there is a governor adjustment screw on the pump/throttle body, but I don't want to mess with it unless it needs some adjustment. There are no direct electrical signals coming off the crank or camshaft. Here's what I've considered:

My Dad had a gizmo that was some type of shaft rpm indicator (maybe for a lathe or drill press). Its just a huge worm gear reduction set. You push the bit into the shaft center and count the wheel turns per time interval. Not sure I want to put my fingers that close considering the tight space.

Clip a playing card onto a bracket and let it rub on the crank pulley with a notch filed into it. Record the noise with Windows Sound Recorder and analyze the wave file for dominant frequency.

Park the mower near my JD tractor with a 4 cylinder motor (which has an accurate tach) and see if they hook up into a Dopplar frequency tone. This probably isn't accurate because the 4 cyl firing frequency is not the same as the 3 cyl firing frequency. The 4 cyl with tach is accurate because when the rpm is set to 540 and my pto alternator is hooked up, I get a measured 60 Hz line frequency off my circuit analyzer (measures Watts, Hz. and Voltage).

Another deviation from #3 is to use the playing card trick on both motors and listening for when they both hook up.


Is there a tool I could buy or rent to give me this answer? It's for setting idle AND top speed rpms. Once it's done I won't need it again so buying a tachometer is a hard investment to justify.

Just wondering out loud today....
 
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To zzvyb6
I used a non contact tachometer that I borrowed from work for over night. I put the sticky reflective paper on the air shroud of my 19.5 HP JD. It worked great.
Craig Clayton
 
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I just bought one of those no contact tachs at Harbor freight for about $40. It has reflective tape that you stick on the item you want to measure. Start the machine up and squeeze the trigger on the tach tester. I am going to use it for tuning up my chainsaws and checking the 540/1000 pto on my Kubota.
 
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Laser tach. Use them all the time at work. As others mentioned, put a small piece of reflective tape on the pulley, start the motor, and shine the laser at it.

Ours are fancier; I think they cost a couple hundred bucks. We require a calibrated unit with high accuracy. Should be able to find a suitable one for cheaper, to check engine RPM.

Or just add a tach...

this is the one I use
Monarch Instrument Pocket Laser Tach 200 Tachometer - instrumart.com
 
   / How To Measure Diesel RPM #6  
I agree with Treemonkey1000. I started a thread a while back on this very issue so here is a link. Tractor RPM
 
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you can get a vibration tack for a diesel that feels the pulse of the injector line.. big diesel shop might let you rent one.

that or the contact tach you havem just pressed against the PTO shaft.. that way you can measure direct pto rpm

if you like math and have a rolling wheel measuring device you can measure the circumference of the pto shaft, and rolling wheel circumference. spin it for a set time, then do the math on what the wheel counts and figure it out.. :)

soundguy
 
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And of course keep your cotton pickin hands, clothes, long hair, hippy beads or what ever away from those rotating parts! :(
 
   / How To Measure Diesel RPM #9  
I bought a tack from HF and use it by Wifes Dr. Offices to set their centrifuges It passes state lab inspection . I also have a vibro tac that I bought 40 years ago you plase it on any a part that dosen't turn and slide a wire in or out till it viberates the most then read a scale that gives you the rpm. I use it on mowers when I tune them up.
 

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