Hillside tool elevator ideas ?

[bcarwell]

I'm needing to get maybe 200 pounds at a time up and down a hillside where I'll be doing work at the bottom- hauling hand tools, generator, bags of cement, etc. Its maybe 100 feet and down an angle of maybe 30 degrees. Does anybody have any sources of ideas to consider ? Its too difficult to lay tracks like the typical hillside tramways, etc. but a few support poles midway is doable if necessary. I was thinking of some sort of wire rope with basket attached suspended at the ends and maybe one or two support poles in the middle and then pulling or lowering the rope/basket with an inexpensive Harbor Fright winch, etc. But it would sure be helpful if someone has worked through some of the details for a homebrew setup like clever ways to attach the basket and how to get it to pass over the support poles with garage door pulleys or whatever, dealing with friction/wear of the rope over the support poles, larger support wheels at the end (like salvaged motorcyle or trailer axles and wheels, etc., etc. Any and all ideas are welcome as hauling that stuff up and down is out of the question. Thanks.

Bob

 

[bcp]

Is it too rough for a cable-operated sled? Less chance of a runaway going downhill.

Bruce

 

[k0ua]

A winch is very slow, a rope Capstan is pretty fast, either a cable tram like you are thinking, or maybe a cart of somekind with big bicycle wheels? and the cart portion below the axle line so it does not want to turn over? just thinking out loud, I havent done this, but I saw a capstan used to pull up kids on a snow slope, and it is fast and you have good control. Google it.

James K0UA

 

[k0ua]

Here is a little video to get the idea.

YouTube - ‪PCW5000 Portable Capstan Winch used by R.A.T. International‬‏

James K0UA

 

[inveresk]

How about this? A shingle elevator.

http://roofinginvancouver.org/?p=146

 

[bcarwell]

Thanks for the replies !
The capstan might be a possibility but may be $$$. I was thinking of gearing up a cheapo Harbor Freight winch a little to solve the speed problem but haven't looked at the numbers yet. The shingle elevator looks cool and I'd like to know more details of what drives it. But I still have the guide problem up/down the hill. The ladder seems to provide this but I'm having to go up more like 120 feet at a 45 degree angle. My latest thought was to put hand rails in of cheap drill stem pipe or whatever in anticipation of steps later and until I get around to the steps, using the hand rails as the rails for the cart. Would not be planning on investing a lot in the steps however as 45 degrees is pretty steep without some landings and the steps would be just temporary for work purposes in getting access to the river- maybe just some cedar with a couple pieces of rebar driven into the hillside until I can make a more meandering side-to-side path down.
Anyway, keep the ideas coming !

Bob

 

[leonz]

I'm needing to get maybe 200 pounds at a time up and down a hillside where I'll be doing work at the bottom- hauling hand tools, generator, bags of cement, etc. Its maybe 100 feet and down an angle of maybe 30 degrees. Does anybody have any sources of ideas to consider ? Its too difficult to lay tracks like the typical hillside tramways, etc. but a few support poles midway is doable if necessary. I was thinking of some sort of wire rope with basket attached suspended at the ends and maybe one or two support poles in the middle and then pulling or lowering the rope/basket with an inexpensive Harbor Fright winch, etc. But it would sure be helpful if someone has worked through some of the details for a homebrew setup like clever ways to attach the basket and how to get it to pass over the support poles with garage door pulleys or whatever, dealing with friction/wear of the rope over the support poles, larger support wheels at the end (like salvaged motorcyle or trailer axles and wheels, etc., etc. Any and all ideas are welcome as hauling that stuff up and down is out of the question. Thanks.

Bob

Hello Farmer Bob,

Is this for your water project?


Short of creating a hang basket tram you do not have many options as you have to have substantial foundations for the trolley poles and the idlers and carrier cable as the stressses will be very large.


The ideal installation is a DOUBLE DRUM WINCH OR TUGGER HOIST;
this is also referred as a slusher hoist.


Using a sled and a 12 volt truck winch is an option but you still need to pull the sled back down to the starting point.


You could simply create a trough or guide way with six by sixes and use very large wheeled cart from tractor supply for lowerring the tools and tug it back up which would allow you a slow descent with the loads and a slow ascent with the tools and supplies when done.

 

[wedge40]

Golf cart?

 

[Western]

Just a thought.
Small trailer, rope/chain/ cable and a electric winch mounted on your truck. Then you can load it up and leave when ready.

 

[davedj1]

take a tire off your truck and use the bare rim as a capstain winch.