High Estimate for a Lean-to

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Too many vehicles and toys and not enough garage space. So I am tossing around the Idea of adding on to the existing garage that is connected to the house. Simple 1-pitch roof lean-to fashion. 12' out from the wall, 24' long/deep.

Pretty simple build. @ 12' out, plan on just using joists, 2x8's, and will try to re-use as much siding as possible. With a 9x8 garage door on one of the 12' sides. The exterior wall of the leanto will only be 8' high.

I have priced material.Posts, sheeting, joists, metal for the roof, vinyl (assuming I cannot re-use anything). This will be post-frame style too, so no footer or block. I am coming up with ~1100-1200 for material.

Now since I dont like messing with roof lines, vinyl siding, or tying into existing structures I figured I'd call around and get some quotes. So far the only one that has called back floored me. He said ballpark figure $5k:confused2: Thats just structure, siding, and roof. I will do the garage door myself at a later date, as well as electrical. Not sure he gets much business with qoutes like that. Maybe I AM in the wrong business.

I am capable of doing the work myself. Just didnt want to mess with it and figured if I could get a reasonable quote I'd just be done with it. I dont figure it taking more than a day for a crew of 2 or 3. So a 4k profit for ~24 man hours seems a bit steep.

Either way, will be doing the addition in the near future. Seems like I will be doing it myself. But was optimistic that if I could get a quote roughly double material cost ($2400) or less, I'd just let someone else worry about it.

So...what says TBN. What do you all think would be a fair labor price for a simple 12x24 leanto, that involves setting a few posts, removing some siding and tying into the existing garage, framing with vinyl siding and a metal roof? Do you think $3500-$4000 labor is fair?

It seems I see these polebarn kits often enough that list two prices. 1. Material. And 2. Erected. And on the smaller 20'ish x 30'ish ones the difference is only a few grand. Certainly this is simpler than that??
 
   / High Estimate for a Lean-to #2  
Ask yourself..will 12'x24' leanto big enough for future goodies.
 
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Not sure how you are tying into your existing structure. Where the lean-to roof meets the existing structure?? Depending on how that is done the labor price would vary quite a bit. Also, is the builder supposed to deal with grade?? That too could add cost.

I'm not defending the builder. Just saying, he may have a total different idea about how to deal with these issues as well as trim and finish work.

By the natural design of human nature, we would expect much more cosmetic, finish and quality work standards than we would impose on ourselves if hiring it built. So the builder knows that, and adds labor to cover these issues as well.

The builder will also figure more hours than we would expect to cover any unexpected issues. He has to do that.

If you know someone that has the talent and that you trust, your cheapest route is to simply hire him to build it and pay him when he's done. Then he doesn't have to bid high to cover unforseen problems.
 
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Its as big as I can go in that area.

No grade or floor to worry about. It is simply setting posts, framing, and tying in. It will tie into the existing "overhang". Which is about 12' high. Giving roughly a 4/12 rafter pitch.
 
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Well, it looks like I will likely be doing this myself. Wont know for about another month, as there is another house I am looking to buy. Its being auctioned in 1 month. So I dont want to do this and then move. So...it is unlikely that I will get that house and be doing this addition in a month.

Second estimate came in. A little more reasonable @ 2k for labor. But that still pts the job ~3500 and me still installing the garage door.

If I can frame it myself for the ~1200 in material and do the door later, thats what I will do. I still think that 2k for labor seems a bit steep for the small amount of work. One of the ads in the paper I seen for buildings had a 24x32 kit for $5500. And $7500 if they build. Just dont seem to make sense that a 12x24 leanto re-using an existing wall, would cost as much in labor as a building about 3 times bigger:confused2:

I know it was a long shot when calling for quotes. But figured I wasnt out anything by trying.

Here are some shots of where it will go.

I will be removing the large pine tree, and relocating the propane tank. And the reason I cand/dont want to go bigger is more than 12' out and it cannot drive the equipment between the trees in the side yard and the leanto/addition. And dont want to go deeper cause I may end up expanding on the house in the future.

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look amish crew
 
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the 2000k for labor was an amish quote
 
   / High Estimate for a Lean-to #8  
Had my amish friend install a 12X30 lean-to (no door)with cement about off my metal 30X40 pole barn 4 years back total price was $2,200.
 
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Did you try J&M Carpentry at 330-231-7236 ask for Joni.
 
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Had my amish friend install a 12X30 lean-to (no door)with cement about off my metal 30X40 pole barn 4 years back total price was $2,200.

That ain't bad. I don't think prices have gone up much, if any in the last 4 years for material. And that's bigger than I want too. But if I could get it done for 2200, I would let someone else do it. Would cost me an extra $1000, but I wouldn't have to worry about vinyl and tying roofs together. And would likely save me a weeks work and only take them a day
 

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