Helping a friend and I don't know jack

thcri · Oct 2, 2007

Ok I am a New Holland guy. I looked at John Deere when buying but ended up with a New Holland and have been happy. But I need to help a friend.

One dealer has a 3120, one dealer has a 3520. My friend wants to do a lot of loader work and is afraid the 3120 won't handle it. The guy with the 3120 says the 3120 will handle a loader just fine, the one dealer with the 3520 says the 3120 won't handle a lot of loader work. I look on the web site and the web page says both are category 1 which to me would be both light for a lot of loader work. Again I am not familiar with John Deere but I had a New Holland Cat 1 at first and it worked for loader work but not that good. My cat ll if much better for loader work. So if the 31 and 35 are the same category other than hp are both on the light side or am I reading John Deere's web page wrong.

So you Green guys help me help my friend.

murph

JiminGa · Oct 2, 2007

they are very similar in loader work capacity, I have a friend that uses his tractor for almost exclusively loader work, he went with a caterpillar...it was cheaper than the equivalent deere. sorry don't know the model off hand.

RoyJackson · Oct 2, 2007

thcri said:
Ok I am a New Holland guy. I looked at John Deere when buying but ended up with a New Holland and have been happy. But I need to help a friend.

One dealer has a 3120, one dealer has a 3520. My friend wants to do a lot of loader work and is afraid the 3120 won't handle it. The guy with the 3120 says the 3120 will handle a loader just fine, the one dealer with the 3520 says the 3120 won't handle a lot of loader work. I look on the web site and the web page says both are category 1 which to me would be both light for a lot of loader work. Again I am not familiar with John Deere but I had a New Holland Cat 1 at first and it worked for loader work but not that good. My cat ll if much better for loader work. So if the 31 and 35 are the same category other than hp are both on the light side or am I reading John Deere's web page wrong.

So you Green guys help me help my friend.

murph

They're basically the same tractor except for the engines...same weight, chassis, tranny's, loaders ...both should handle about the same loads, but the 3520 would do it a bit quicker.

thcri · Oct 3, 2007

RoyJackson said:
They're basically the same tractor except for the engines...same weight, chassis, tranny's, loaders ...both should handle about the same loads, but the 3520 would do it a bit quicker.

That is what I was thinking, but this guy wants to mow lawn with his but he wants to move a lot of dirt with it too. From what I found it is only a cat 1 which to me when comparing the New Holland I originally had which was a TC21D Cat 1 it is a tad bit small for a lot of loader work? I am thinking I would like to see him go to a cat ll rig?

Any other opinions out there.

murph

jbrumberg · Oct 3, 2007

This category/class rating for tractors based on frame size is a NH thing. Other manufacturers do not "class" their tractors by frame size.

Jay

Fossil Farm · Oct 3, 2007

What does your friend mean by "alot of loader work?" Several hours a day, one day a week, a couple days a month? If he wants to mow with it, I hope it is brushhog type mowing. Finish mowing and loaders aren't really the best unless he is going to remove the FEL every time. Better off with a mower and a FEL tractor - 2 pieces of equipment. Two is always better anyhow.

FEL's aren't bulldozers. If he can only afford one tractor, and just takes his time working the dirt piles, he should be OK with either JD. Be a matter of the better dealer, travel time to the dealer for parts, service, etc. Good luck to your friend !!

orlo · Oct 4, 2007

The entire 3x20 series has the same capacities and flow rate on the hydraulics. The biggest difference will be in the tractor movement to dig and to transport. The 3520 will have a lot of extra power to move quickly. The 3120 won't have as much. I had a 3320 and now have a 3720 and the 3720 when asked to accelerate or move with a load will get up to speed a lot quicker. But from a stat point of view ALL of the 3000 series have the same flow and PSI. On the At full flow and pressure (13.9gpm and 2500psi) you have about 20 hydraulic hp combined (Steering and implement). That doesn't leave a lot to spare on the 3120 for moving. Just the implements put out about 12.5hp max.

aesanders · Oct 8, 2007

I'm not quite sure what you are referring to as the category I or II class size. The 3000 series machines would fall between the TC34 and TC 40 New Holland. They are a little larger than the TC34 but similar in PTO hp.

The 3000 series Deere's are quite a bit larger than the TC21 that you listed. The TC21 is similar in size to the Deere I have (2320).

All are category I on the 3 point hitch. When I think of category II machines, I'm thinking of larger utility tractors like 5000 series Deere's or TN New Hollands.