Help Wiring Work Lights On A 4530

bindian · Mar 30, 2008

xlr82v2 said:
HAHAHAHA, yep, I know...

But, what is the horn for? I don't recall ever seeing a warning horn on the PTO... Does it go off when you leave the seat or something like that? Or, am I not thinking Indian enough yet?

Your not thinking Indain enough yet. I am sure it is like my 6520. The term IPTO means the PTO is independent of main clutch. The power is transmitted to the PTO shaft through an IPTO clutch which can be engaged or disengaged by the IPTO clutch lever. The IPTO clutch is always to be kept in the engaged position. The horn (beeper in my book) will sound each time the IPTO clutch is disengaged. If you leave the IPTO clutch disengaged for any length of time, bad things will happen to the guts of your IPTO clutch. So if you don't get a horn when disengaging the IPTO clutch...................go get it fixed.
So to use your PTO takes 3 movements. Disengage the IPTO clutch, shift the PTO to ON from the OFF position, then re-engage the IPTO clutch.
hugs, Brandi

LAWALLSTRACTOR · Mar 30, 2008

The 3525 doesn't have a independent pto clutch, instead it uses a 2 stage clutch setup, there for it has no IPTO hooter.

xlr82v2 · Mar 30, 2008

bindian said:
Your not thinking Indain enough yet. I am sure it is like my 6520. The term IPTO means the PTO is independent of main clutch. The power is transmitted to the PTO shaft through an IPTO clutch which can be engaged or disengaged by the IPTO clutch lever. The IPTO clutch is always to be kept in the engaged position. The horn (beeper in my book) will sound each time the IPTO clutch is disengaged. If you leave the IPTO clutch disengaged for any length of time, bad things will happen to the guts of your IPTO clutch. So if you don't get a horn when disengaging the IPTO clutch...................go get it fixed.
So to use your PTO takes 3 movements. Disengage the IPTO clutch, shift the PTO to ON from the OFF position, then re-engage the IPTO clutch.
hugs, Brandi

Ahh, OK. Now it makes sense. Definitely I was not thinking Indian enough. All of the JD's and AC's and IH's and Ford's that I grew up with didn't have a PTO warning horn even though they all had either live or live independent PTO's... I guess the American's had a different way of getting the same thing done than the Indians

. I've just never seen a live independent PTO that operated that way. It sounds as if they still use a 2 stage clutch of sorts between the engine and the transmission, but instead of both stages being actuated by the clutch pedal as a regular "live" pto, they separated the functions so that the PTO clutch is hand lever actuated, and the transmission clutch is still pedal activated. Quite a clever way to get things done, without the extra engineering required to do it the same way as the big American tractor manufacturers accomplish "Live Independent" pto.

bindian · Mar 31, 2008

LAWALLSTRACTOR said:
The 3525 doesn't have a independent pto clutch, instead it uses a 2 stage clutch setup, there for it has no IPTO hooter.

Galen,
Brian has a 3525 and asked a question about Mud's hooter in the wiring diagram for his 4530, which should have an independent PTO according to my broucure.

hugs, Brandi