help needed for pto- Mitzu MTE 2000D

[essmjay]

I started a thread in the parts/repair forum for this problem if you want the long story. Short story is I hit a rock while mowing and something in the pto snapped. I am in the process of disassembly to diagnose.

As you can see, I am down to the hard part. I have never taken this apart before and I am GUESSING that all the top parts stay together and the lid separates from the main body of the transmission housing. If I do this, are any parts going to fall out of the top unit? Does anyone have a parts diagram for this assembly? Or perhaps some service manual pages?
Shane

 

[Roadworthy]

If the Mitzu MTE 2000D is the same as a Mitsubishi MTE 2000 you can check with Valley Power
They may even have the parts diagram and technical manual. They were a lifesaver for my Mitsubishi.

 

[CausticUrbanCoast]

Wait .... without reading the long version; why did the shearpin not shatter first?

 

[airbiscuit]

This is his other opening post:

I have a Mitsubishi MTE 2000D. Everything was fine until today while mowing a field I hit a 50 pound rock that wasn't there last year. Someone put it there to mark something I guess. I was swinging a 60" brush hog and broke the rock into three pieces. I stopped and picked up the pieces and started mowing again. Then 20 feet later there was a breaking metallic sound and the mower stopped rotating. Looking down I saw oil coming out from the bottom of the pto shaft where it exits the transmission. The output shaft is all floppy. I managed to get the mower off and the tractor back in the barn. I am wondering if anyone knows what my next step should be and what may have broken. I am guessing I will have to go into the transmission. There are 4 large bolts on the plate that is around the shaft where it exits the transmission. Could it maybe be as simple as removing the plate would allow access for repair? Any and all suggestions are welcome. I am a fair mechanic, enough to know to not just start ripping and tearing into it without knowing where I am going with it. Help?

 

[CausticUrbanCoast]

Thanks, that answers that; there was an improper shearpin or worse, someone used a hardened bolt instead. Expensive lesson for a dollar or two shearpin.

That description sounds like the pto shaft at worst, likely shattered, or at maybe less, worse tore itself out and broke some splines.

There is no option that I know of on the Mitsubishi but to drain the hydraulic case and open it from the top down. I hope you have the I&T or the Mitsubishi service manual to show how all the shafts and selectors stack up.

ALSO take pictures when you crack the lid and take out the upper selector shafts, you NEED to know where they and the shift rings were to put it back together properly.

 

[airbiscuit]

Not sure if this is the same model

Mitsubishi Farm Tractor D2 Service Parts Manual on CD | eBay

Or call one of the Mitsubishi parts suppliers. Maybe some Mitsubishi owners can guide you.

 

[CausticUrbanCoast]

Not sure if this is the same model

Mitsubishi Farm Tractor D2 Service Parts Manual on CD | eBay

Or call one of the Mitsubishi parts suppliers. Maybe some Mitsubishi owners can guide you.

The MTE 2000D should be 4WD, I do not have that specific series in my I&T service manuals.

 

[essmjay]

All is good. PTO shaft was bounced back so the bearings were no longer seated. Was was able to drive the bearings and shaft back into place and now just need to button it up. Before
After
Shane

 

[CausticUrbanCoast]

You made out very lucky, I am not sure I've saw that happen before without oil pouring out the pto shaft hole.

If you are using an extendable pto shaft, it may be a bit too long and is not able to compress with implement movement.

Looks like it was time for a fluid change as well, so that's a bonus. Sucks having to open a case just after a change and replacing the oil again.

 

[essmjay]

All is good. PTO shaft was bounced back so the bearings were no longer seated. Was was able to drive the bearings and shaft back into place and now just need to button it up. View attachment 661232Before
View attachment 661233After
Shane

Finished up with a clip to hold it all together. Now to put it all back together.

 

[essmjay]

You made out very lucky, I am not sure I've saw that happen before without oil pouring out the pto shaft hole.

If you are using an extendable pto shaft, it may be a bit too long and is not able to compress with implement movement.

Looks like it was time for a fluid change as well, so that's a bonus. Sucks having to open a case just after a change and replacing the oil again.

Why would you feel you would have to change out new oil just because you wanted to open the top of the case? I am putting in new oil because it does need changing, but if it was new I would leave it in or save it if I did have to drain the bottom (for instance to find a broken circlip).

 

[CausticUrbanCoast]

Stuff always falls in and the case was not drained first.

I suppose it depends if you trust that nothing fell into the gear teeth and that the strainer will catch it. Splitting my tractor in 3 to replace an input shaft that was almost impossible to find because the previous owner did not tighten a nut enough makes me paranoid about any dirt/rocks/etc in that area. The Mitsubishi cases are made out of an alloy that is easy to damage according to the service manuals; the less they are opened, the better in my books.

 

[airbiscuit]

Looks good. Did you have to be a contortionist to get it back together?

 

[essmjay]

Looks good. Did you have to be a contortionist to get it back together?

Not really, I used 90 degree circlip pliers. Only went flying twice....

 

[Topzide]

Sometimes you just get lucky! I'm like you, you know its broke, so why not open up and take a look to see what imploded. Best use for camera on the phone is to take step by step photos of how it comes apart. Sure make going back together easier.

 

[CausticUrbanCoast]

Sometimes you just get lucky! I'm like you, you know its broke, so why not open up and take a look to see what imploded. Best use for camera on the phone is to take step by step photos of how it comes apart. Sure make going back together easier.

And a set of euro case splitting chisels is invaluable, I think the are called welding chisels here. About 1/8th of an inch thick.

 

[Kernopelli]

I have a MTE200D as well, Ive had it for 17 years and it has been a true workhorse! I have owned a number of grey market tractors but that's the one I kept for myself. I use the I&T manual for Mitsubishi MT180-300 models. There is enough crossover from those models to figure out 95% of issues Ive had. I also purchased a manual on Ebay for the CaseIH 254/255 models. Mitsubishi made those models for CIH and the MTE 2000D is identical to those two models except power steering was an option on the CIH's, the wheel sizes are different and the CIH's use the K3E engine and the 2000D uses the K3F ( VERY similar engines). The hard to find parts for the 2000D are usually available from CIH for the 254/255's.

 

[PILOON]

Yep, manuals----
Have a 180D and first thing I did was buy , shop, parts and operators manuals.
Paid off big time.
I was fortunate in that a rental shop buddy/dealer obtained them 4 me at cost.
All mine are Mitsubishi originals manuals.